syphus information 164 glöps
- general:
- level: user
- personal:
- first name: Bren
- last name: .
- cdcs:
- cdc #1: Eon by The Black Lotus [web]
- musicdisk Windows Panda-Monium Music Disk 7 by CoolPHat [web]
- Since it's so hard to find, because Vamp did such a good job of creating the hidden part, I'm going to announce that it's found by clicking three times on the tiny little grey man's forehead and then clicking Play. I have a vested interest, though, cos it's my tune that's hidden:)
- isokadded on the 2007-06-06 02:39:35
- diskmag Amiga AGA Jurassic Pack #17 by Moods Plateau [web] & Scarab [web]
- Woop! Nice interface, nice music, interesting articles - fulfills all the requirements of today's Amiga diskmag and more.
- rulezadded on the 2007-05-26 03:22:47
- demo Playstation Portable Suicide Barbie by The Black Lotus [web]
- No. A slideshow containing carbon copies of each single photograph of mass-produced, commercially available Barbie dolls made by the relevant 'Suicide Barbie' photographer would be Timbaland. What we have here is a combination of influence, imitation, appropriation, technical aptitude, transcension of the original medium, art direction and presentation.
Suppose TBL model Mount Everest; something that's been photographed many times in the last century for 'non-scene productions' - by your reasoning this would be entirely invalid. Those previous photographs might have been sensitively and painstakingly shot over the last century by artistically-minded photographers, who spent a long time choosing their subject and awaiting the right lighting conditions etc. TBL may never have seen Mount Everest with their own eyes - indeed they might use these photographs as points of reference, by which they can envisage something that ALREADY EXISTS, which by virtue of its pervasion of our collective cultural psyche is essentially public domain. It's only because the Barbie Doll is such an easily-recognisable commodity that the original Suicide Barbie photographer was able to create a work with any cultural currency whatsoever. If he made some clay figurines and showed them appearing to commit suicide, his work would have only limited artistic and social resonance.
Aside from the whole issue of propriety where the referencing of source material is concerned, it has to be said that Suicide Barbie, the demo, does not exclusively contain 'carbon copies' - or at least carbon copies of the mises-en-scene, which is what I suspect people really mean. Enough directors have referenced Godard's dreadful Weekend long-shot with only a slight shift in medium, subject matter or other points of technicality to remind us that if an artistic domain is shared sensitively (ie with the use of proper attribution in credits, against whose absence I won't argue) then influence and cross-pollenation can exist fruitfully.
I've already used two tenuous analogies in this thread, and I'd think twice about using a third were it not for the fact that many people are drawing the Timbaland comparison, which already straddles some serious technical distinctions:) So please allow me to jump on the bandwagon:
IF TIMBALAND WAS INFLUENCED BY THE SUICIDE BARBIE PHOTOS, HE WOULD HAVE:
* Bought some Barbie dolls, a blender, a bizarrely shaped meat-grinder of some sort, some knives and assorted toy weapons
* Bought a camera
* Got one of his flunkies to arrange the - no, no, no...
Wrong, he would have just fucking lifted those photos off the web, opened Photoshop and then drawn some moustaches on the dolls to disguise them. Because THAT is effectively what he did to Tempest's tune - he laid a simplistic hip-hop beat and some Nellie Furtado vocals over it to disguise it slightly.
So to tease this analogy to breaking-point (no pun intended), let's imagine that TBL used the Timbaland mode of 'creativity' when making Suicide Barbie:
* Steal photographs
* Draw moustaches
* Code slideshow
* Release!
Now that's not what happened, is it?
By the way, I totally agree on all credits-related issues. It's one thing to forget on the day, but it's worrying that nobody from TBL has spoken up properly to clarify this. It'd be nice to know for sure what's what. Sorry for the long post. - isokadded on the 2007-04-20 09:38:11
- demo Playstation Portable Suicide Barbie by The Black Lotus [web]
- I can only believe what I'm reading because I know this is pouet.
If I model myself in 3D in a demo, have I ripped from myself? Or from God? Or from my parents? Suppose I use a picture for reference. Have I ripped from fucking Kodak?
Let's take a step back. It's the mid-90's and I run my hand-scanner over two images of models' faces then perform some graphicistic pixel-by-pixel wizardry on them to turn them into something suitable for a mid-demo still. I'm not going to credit the original photographer (EVEN if he was credited in the magazine I tore the page from) because, well, that would be fucking stupid in the context of the demo. Not to mention the fact that my art has become something distinct and separate by virtue of the new medium and the work I've done on it.
Just like modelling some barbie dolls.
Then I took 15-seconds of vocal samples TO INFLUENCE AN ENTIRELY NEW PIECE OF MUSIC. Lock up Grandmaster Flash and throw away the fucking key!
Jesus Christing fuck. If you want to take ART into the back yard and shoot it in the head, shoot yourself while you're at it.
This is not Timbaland. This is a demo. - isokadded on the 2007-04-19 15:11:10
- demo Playstation Portable Suicide Barbie by The Black Lotus [web]
- Right, FINALLY got this working. I've never been more frustrated by a delayed release, but patience finally won the day. I agree with Scamp that it's not hard to spread some credit, but I'm not particularly fired up by the 'appropriation' of extant source material. True, the use of commercially available music might weaken the moral foundations of the case against Timbaland and future copyrapists, but then we all know that the demoscene is a gathering of individuals, not an incorporation of ideological subscribers. Anyway, that's a discussion for the Bulletin Board.
The whole point of this demo, really, is that when you hold the PSP inches from your face with the brightness turned up, watching a demo that's better than anything you've previously seen on the platform (including all the shit games available for it), you're reminded WHY you spent all that money on it. You bought the PSP because it's a fairly sexy-looking portable media device with amazing battery life and a beautiful screen. Pretty, perfect, pink and purple shapes with beautiful lighting and nice, cheesy (and completely appropriate) music...this would sell the PSP to me if I didn't already have one. And while I'm only a lowly musician, I reckon that doing something aesthetically satisfying and impressive with a hardware platform, even if it's not at the cutting edge of artistic expression and originality, must be close to the heart of the scene ethos. So my thumb is for Suicide Barbie doing EXACTLY what it sets out to do - offer good looking images and pleasant-sounding audio on a computer. Hooray!
Oh, and as NoIRC exemplifies with his youtube vid, the framerate is completely bang-on with a 3.03 PSP - even from my new 'Sony' 4Gb memory stick (which is quite blatantly a fake, and much slower than my SanDisk card). So all those FPS detractiors, who were probably right to be suspicious considering it took two weeks for evidence of the REAL demo to appear, can be satisfied that what we saw at Breakpoint was just as it seemed. - rulezadded on the 2007-04-18 04:04:49
- liveact Wild BASS live@breakpoint07 by BASS [web]
- The thumb is for the triumphant cover of Hard Rock Hallelujah, and for the cheap Breakpoint beer that made those first few 'soundcheck' songs bearable:) Good craic, lads.
- rulezadded on the 2007-04-16 04:33:55
- 32k game Windows Stupid dungeons by Tristar
- aaand it even says so in the nfo - absolutely never mind.
- isokadded on the 2007-04-12 05:28:28
- 32k game Windows Stupid dungeons by Tristar
- Oh, never mind - I was pissed at the party and couldn't see the big screen very well from the back, but now I've played it I realise that the main character and most of the textures were from Magic Pockets:) Cool enough, though...
- rulezadded on the 2007-04-12 05:26:49
- 32k game Windows Stupid dungeons by Tristar
- Are the frogs and the snails from Bitmap Brothers' Magic Pockets on the Amiga?
- isokadded on the 2007-04-12 05:24:52
- 1k invitation ZX Spectrum Sundown 2007 1kb invitro by ate bit [web]
- evilpaul is like the Jamie Oliver of the ZX world - great taste and stylish execution!!!!1
- rulezadded on the 2007-04-11 00:34:24
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