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Eon by The Black Lotus [web]
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screenshot added by mayday on 2019-04-22 14:36:11
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release date : april 2019
release party : Revision 2019
compo : amiga demo
ranked : 1st
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popularity : 82%
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alltime top: #36
  • Kalms Kalms [3d scenes code, opts, system]
  • Calladin Calladin [direction, graphics]
  • Louie500 Louie500 [graphics support]
  • emoon emoon [main coding, system, tool code, effects, music sample streaming]
  • djh0ffman djh0ffman [music, drum mixer code]
  • erique erique [sine wavey blobs effect]
  • dep dep [track loading, 3d scenes code, system, tools]
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Nice composition but as per my twitter response - "was expecting more from TBL this time, found it a little lackluster. Packs style, but the music carried this one imo, it belongs more in the realms of contemporary digital art than demoscene I feel."
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 14:39:29 by dv$ dv$
great!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 14:45:00 by Adam Bazaroff Adam Bazaroff
Amazing in every way possible
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 14:46:49 by nytrik nytrik
What an amazing demo, congrats to everyone involved!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 14:47:03 by 4pLaY 4pLaY
you madmen! This was one classy demo.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 14:49:27 by rloaderro rloaderro
Pure excellence and well worth the very long road and all of the effort that was clearly involved. I love every last little bit of it. Hugely inspiring!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 14:55:51 by ferris ferris
Instant all-time OCS/ECS #1
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 14:58:08 by haywood haywood
One can just applause to that. After one managed to get the jaw up from the floor again. Congrats! Amazing music by H0ff as expected. ;)
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 15:05:54 by Dascon Dascon
It's just impossible how much A500 got raped and abused here. Best WTF moment of the last decade <3 I bow to you!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 15:16:33 by jammer jammer
this is definitely THE next step.
and who else besides TBL could make it?
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 15:18:16 by sq sq
Wait WAT? It was OCS, not AGA?
Maaan...
added on the 2019-04-22 15:22:51 by sq sq
Design! Emotions! Perfection!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 15:24:46 by MKM MKM
!!!THANK YOU GUYS!!!

YouTube
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 15:26:29 by ded^RMDA ded^RMDA
Absolutely brilliant
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 15:31:21 by Sebbert Sebbert
you guys made a proper music video on amiga.
the quality, ideas and direction is spot-on. felt like watching new röyksopp/trentemøller stuff in a lo-fi way.
well deserves every thumb up!
btw. was the barking dog footage from the afx - come to daddy vid? :)
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 15:35:10 by nagz nagz
Hell yeah!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 15:36:08 by MsK` MsK`
<3
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 15:37:20 by teo teo
Hell yeah, that was IT :D Amazing fresh demo from TBL - On an A500!

TBL - kicking the limitations :D
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 15:52:19 by Sapphire Sapphire
oh boy this was great
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:11:36 by wullon wullon
Delivered goosebumps during the compo. Great atmosphere and art. Congrats!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:15:07 by jco jco
As usual, this is perfect !
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:17:27 by Black Dragon Black Dragon
Totally insane achievement. Best Amiga 500 demo by far. Even more powerful when seeing it today while sober.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:17:42 by Radiant Radiant
what kind of black magic...!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:23:16 by pitapoto pitapoto
This is incredible. Absolutely amazing in every way. Hats off, gents!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:24:37 by gloom gloom
Perfect demo production for the big screen. TBL never fail to leave everyone speechless
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:25:23 by mop mop
Many thanks for making contemporary digital art.

Also thank you for showing very convincingly that making contemporary digital art does not actually in any way contradict demoscene spirit.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:26:09 by introspec introspec
Fantastic.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:29:12 by Leander Leander
I just can't even.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:29:57 by rp rp
this was super inspiring! demos can and should be beautiful.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:40:32 by petet petet
Admirable what can still be done on an A500. I'm not a big fan of the dithered-to-hell gfx and straight up dislike the music, but there's no way im not giving it a thumbsup :)
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:40:47 by reptile reptile
Goosebumps during the projection.
Fantastic <3
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:40:54 by rem rem
fucking masterpiece! awesome!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:41:33 by natalia natalia
great awesome cool
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:49:43 by ozan ozan
A banger for sure.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 16:57:48 by Serpent Serpent
What an Easter egg surprise! This is exactly why I love demoscene. Amazing composition and execution. TBL continues to dominate. I'm amazed. Thank you. One ❤ Love
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 17:04:59 by Morden Morden
Amazing style (visuals & audio), effects/screens composition and script.
rulezcdc added on the 2019-04-22 17:05:13 by Dma-Sc Dma-Sc
Hoho!
I was not initially convinced at the beginning of the demo (colors, pacing, lightning routine used too much..)
But the girl converting to 3d totally got me!
A memorable demo for sure, thanks TBL!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 17:20:09 by norecess norecess
I'm not good at A500 context but it still blew my mind. TBL rulez!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 17:31:13 by FMS_Cat FMS_Cat
Totally blew me away!!!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 17:36:00 by sLASH_1 sLASH_1
The best TBL release since Ocean Machine. I see potential for a classic here.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 17:43:24 by break break
OCS? OMG!
and what norecess said ;-)
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 17:43:29 by RufUsul RufUsul
Exactly and more than what I wanted. The music is sublime, the pixel art to poly effects the highlight and the style consistently beautiful and animated in such a wonderfully engaging way. It all fits perfectly and flows together evoking many complex emotions and associations. Thank you for this beautiful demo.
rulezcdc added on the 2019-04-22 17:51:23 by visy visy
Yes! :)
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 17:51:38 by Puryx Puryx
Amiga is my religion and TBL are my goods! You just raised the bar for OCS demos to a divine level. This is already a classic i my book. Respect
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 17:58:49 by bitflippr bitflippr
How
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 18:08:43 by jobe jobe
Impressive.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 18:09:37 by Buckethead Buckethead
Very unconventional OCS demo. Top quality music, visuals and code.
To me it feels a bit like Another World 2.0.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 18:39:42 by Scali Scali
A visual story done properly. Total enjoyment. Thank you for all the work you put in. Love it!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 18:42:36 by CONS CONS
Perfect production! Mega!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 18:44:05 by waldiamiga waldiamiga
This production is quite the exception for an Amiga release in at least two regards:

1. It is NOT something of an intro/dentro length and amount of effects yet released as a demo. Has the length and amount of content to qualify as a proper demo which is so rare lately.

2. It is a Direction/Strong Concept focused production, not just a mish-mash of whatever was at hand.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 19:11:58 by Hoild Hoild
Beauty.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 19:32:07 by grip grip
This.. was.. awesome!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 19:47:07 by mr_spiv mr_spiv
I’m into Amiga now
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 19:48:11 by karo133ne karo133ne
really amazing demo - the mood, the graphics, the effects, the awesome sountrack. worthy winner for sure!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 19:50:39 by dipswitch dipswitch
Thank you.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 19:52:59 by SiR SiR
THE best demo I've seen in a long time! <3
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 19:59:41 by Xanthe Xanthe
I’m sober again but I still think. Best Amiga Demo ever!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 20:00:26 by Emufr3ak Emufr3ak
.awesome
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 20:16:48 by kempy kempy
ok
added on the 2019-04-22 20:23:48 by rudi rudi
Really, really beautiful.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 20:26:20 by DickThunder DickThunder
wat?
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 20:27:27 by kusma kusma
now you port your aga/060 demos to standard ocs? now thats cheating!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 20:47:07 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Unbelievable that this runs on OCS! After all these decades this hardware still makes my jaw drop... deserved winner!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 20:51:47 by pintcat pintcat
A500 demo over the top!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 20:57:49 by roudoudou roudoudou
Awesome demo!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 21:05:59 by mlc mlc
good!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 21:25:17 by yzi yzi
Worthy winner, perfectly freshly designed amiga demo, just amazing....
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 21:31:15 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
ECS? I can't believe it! Outstanding
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 21:32:15 by bullet bullet
good shit
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 21:52:40 by Tjoppen Tjoppen
Who needs AGA? No One, OCS is all you need ;)
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 21:54:08 by drzeissler drzeissler
HD-Version would be nice!
Epic in so many ways !!!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 21:58:23 by Kuemmel Kuemmel
Burial 🤐
added on the 2019-04-22 22:01:10 by mrdoob mrdoob
that was just awesome. In begin I was not so fond of the gfx but as it progresses, the demo mood and tech are just amazing. Great work and an inspiration for us all.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 22:06:33 by Ramon B5 Ramon B5
Fantastic ! What else ?
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 22:10:15 by ast ast
Stunning
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 22:11:35 by pigpenpete pigpenpete
AMIGAA
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 22:17:57 by p01 p01
whoah.
rulezcdc added on the 2019-04-22 22:19:40 by hollowone hollowone
Holy shit. Could you imagine sending this demo back to the 80s? You would blow their effing minds. Amazing.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 22:19:59 by xeron xeron
Cool story, but I like to watch real-time demos. A demo builds up to an awesome part and then it's an animation... It's just such a huge letdown when you're watching. Suddenly it's the opposite of awesome and feels like watching one of those intro disks that came with 1991-1992 games, you know?
sucks added on the 2019-04-22 22:27:13 by Photon Photon
wow, amazing!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 22:31:36 by marx marx
A little bit to much layered image stuff in the beginnig but the second disc part was perfectly balanced with effects - this is art and pure enjoyment.
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 23:37:21 by Infinity Infinity
Poetry!
rulez added on the 2019-04-22 23:49:59 by Soundy Soundy
absolutely astounding during the compo, but after watching it again im starting to think the hoffman soundtrack is not the best fit. either way, it's really a masterpiece.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 00:01:51 by Rastertail Rastertail
This demo masterfully works with the platform limitations instead of against them. The entire aesthetic and the beautiful backgrounds makes it look like low-poly flat-shaded models is a conscious choice made to enhance the look, not a limitation of the A500. Great stuff.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 00:06:22 by Sesse Sesse
Fabulous! What a production. Also the music is absolutely mindblowing and fits perfectly into the demo and creates a unbelievable atmosphere. Masterpiece.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 00:12:46 by Cie Cie
Awesome prod. Fantastic design, direction and music!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 01:05:57 by leonard leonard
jaw dropping sweet!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 01:42:09 by psenough psenough
no idea what that amiga thing you all talking bout is but holy cow that was such a blast
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 01:56:25 by DiFFtY DiFFtY
This one was just amazing to watch.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 01:58:00 by Starchaser Starchaser
Amigas die of scaredness when they see the disk of that one approach! Such a sublime piece. The hard work shows indeed! Tons of iconic scenes (and best lightnings ever too :D).
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 04:42:31 by alkama alkama
Superb Demo! Especially i liked two things on this demo. (1) the smooth animations of the wolf in the woods (2) the moments when painted pics were transformed in vector-graphics and then animated.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 07:34:18 by AW87 AW87
nice
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 08:25:47 by remdy remdy
What Sesse said. This is an amazing demo for working within full knowledge of the Amiga's limits instead of trying to break them. I know how nearly everything was done in the demo and I'm still incredibly impressed.

I look forward to an explanation of how the poly anims were compressed -- I'm guessing differential slices like we (and many others) did to eliminate overdraw.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 08:35:59 by trixter trixter
I'm not a fan of story/animation demos, and share much of Photon's feelings, but the sheer amount of artistry, and what was required to get in on screen, is astounding. A worthy winner in what was the greatest Amiga compo I can remember.

Also, I liked the rubber cube :-)
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 08:58:01 by Paradroid Paradroid
OCS? no waaay!!!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 09:01:17 by TRoNi TRoNi
TBL killed the Demoscene.
Again.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 09:19:04 by TrX TrX
As someone with no experience with the platform, it's difficult for me to gauge the technical quality of the production. I can see it's well above many of the other creations, I can see it showcases effects that would usually mean AGA, and I can see the smoothness of the animation. This is already very impressive, alas, I am certainly missing a lot of the magic here.
Regardless, even for the technically illiterate, the quality of the art and direction already make this show unique. I still need some time to process and fully appreciate it, but this was obviously a major moment at the party, and my favourite prod there.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 09:19:39 by Zavie Zavie
instant classic
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 10:02:43 by randomi randomi
Was hearing chatter about this new TBL demo the whole party, setting this up as the the demo to end all OCS demos.

My expectations were set so high I was sure I was gonna be disappointed when I finally saw it on the big screen.

Turned out I was wrong, the rumors were completely correct, and evenmoreso.

Such a strong Amiga compo this year as well with all the other amazing prods, I think we haven't seen this level of competition in the Amiga scene since the mid 90's. This makes me so happy, and I hope it's a sign of things to come!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 10:17:19 by juice juice
all hail our lords and saviours, tbl
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 10:17:22 by wobble wobble
I was just blown away by this one, I love how it has a very defined theme.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 10:27:53 by seatsea seatsea
This is insane. Love it.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 10:32:01 by lipek lipek
This was really awesome, it blew me away while i was watching it at the compo on Revision!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 11:02:19 by Mr-Z Mr-Z
What everyone (except one) said, still searching my jaw on the floor
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 11:18:11 by Triace Triace
Nice to see TBL do a500 !
Efford and Passion! Well done lads!
Keep enjoying this Amiga thing! Till next time!

p.s.
Here is my live recording:
https://youtu.be/uAjEUEbmCJw
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 11:26:40 by magic magic
Absolute killer A500 OCS demo. Loved the vectorized part in the end. Still hard to decide the true winner between EON & DE PROFUNDIS, as both of them are mindblowing :)
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 11:34:57 by hardfire hardfire
WTF.

Insane, got tears in my eyes. The moments after 3:40 in the demo... A500? A500! AMIGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!11
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 13:26:25 by leGend leGend
awesome
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 13:31:28 by nosfe nosfe
alda krass!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 13:58:19 by ewerybody ewerybody
Stunning in every possible way!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 14:22:45 by gnilk gnilk
This was awesome!! Congratz on both winning the compo and best of party!!

Kalms, we also had a nice talk outside about how you guys make your demos. You might remember a bunch of guys standing near the showers while walking back inside when I raised my beer bottle and cheered with you.

Thx for the talk man!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 14:34:00 by spiked-maniac spiked-maniac
An A500 masterpiece. Floating boy & girl at the end look kinda goofy and broke the magic a bit, but that's just nitpicking.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 14:40:37 by Daddy Freddy Daddy Freddy
@jiuice - exactly my thoughts. Congratulations to the whole team. Also being proud that it wasn't our ass whipped by TBL again in the compo :)
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 14:45:23 by AzzaroMWI AzzaroMWI
Reminiscent of the graphical style of Another World, only with significantly better framerate. Shivers at 3:48.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 14:50:05 by Trilkk Trilkk
Magnificient. I love when people use older platforms to make good concept demos instead of effect collections.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 14:56:22 by Warma Warma
That was absolutely awesome! I've seen PC-Demo quality on the Amiga! THIS is what development means. I was absolutely speechless.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 16:14:46 by JackPearse JackPearse
Jesus Christ, guys.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 16:54:12 by Gargaj Gargaj
what zden would have said ...
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 17:50:58 by xxx xxx
As someone already suggested, let's time machine this one back to 1990 :)
added on the 2019-04-23 18:23:39 by mop mop
After having watched it again a few times today, I'm still speechless *wipes away tear*
rulezcdc added on the 2019-04-23 18:30:49 by Harekiet Harekiet
Killer..
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 18:54:40 by toxie toxie
Solid art direction and perfectly executed. Congrats guys.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 19:02:53 by flynn_nrg flynn_nrg
Magnificent on all levels. What a fine day in AMIGA demo history this was!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 19:05:18 by Motion Motion
Tbl rulez
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 19:33:15 by Davebaud Davebaud
Amazing!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 19:40:34 by highlife highlife
Well done!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 19:51:35 by Frequent Frequent
Has anyone managed to run this on real HW with Gotek+Cortex floppy emulator? For me it fails to detect the disk swap, so the icon keeps showing then after a while garbage graphics appear.
added on the 2019-04-23 20:14:30 by Sdw Sdw
Great work guys, congratulation!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 20:39:23 by viti viti
Did not disappoint, to say the least. Some really unique and previously unseen stuff in here.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 21:00:45 by Alpha C Alpha C
Kicks ass!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 21:33:30 by Cosmocat Cosmocat
God exists, hallelujah!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 21:37:33 by Zplex Zplex
One of the best demos ever for the A500
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 21:49:12 by Iapetus Iapetus
Oh, vanilla a500 + TBL = Miracle
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 22:14:32 by ref ref
I was baffled for a moment when the cube appeared, because it felt kind of an underwhelming for an effect in a TBL demo. Then I realized I was actually watching and OCS demo and my mind was blown even more.

As far as storytelling, composition and general demo choreography goes, this is probably one of the most impressive works of art I have ever seen made by the demoscene. The fact that the technical side is mindblowing is almost beside the point.

Beautiful.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 22:20:51 by Preacher Preacher
Holy sheep, Masterpiece! :O
Although I'm not an Amiga guy, I have to admit that this prod rulez! I think that Hoffman's soundtrack does a much of atmosphere, it fits perfectly.
Those polygon animations reminds me my loving Another world. ;)
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 22:55:44 by mborik mborik
effects were kinda unremarkable, but the music, graphics and presentation were stellar
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 23:18:26 by beefheid beefheid
***Exquisite***

Also - another example of witchcraft.
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 23:27:29 by YERZMYEY/H-PRG YERZMYEY/H-PRG
great!
rulez added on the 2019-04-23 23:29:59 by sINk sINk
Holy moly! Can't remember when I watched an Amiga demo more than a dozen times in a row the last time! Amazing stuff, best story telling ever in a demo, outstanding soundtrack and design. This one is coming from another world. Shivers, speechless, end. THANK YOU!
rulezcdc added on the 2019-04-23 23:45:25 by Bobic Bobic
Great work...As always, TBL leaves me wondering about the coding details of every part of the show.
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 00:07:30 by peskanov peskanov
"My life is now complete." - d.fox
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 00:14:10 by Charlie Charlie
effects wise it's not that mind blowing as we've seen all that 2D/3D vectorization stuff in 1992 already, but, damn, doing it with a modern twist and strong narrative makes it actually very, very good!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 00:46:59 by post malone post malone
beautiful
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 00:54:30 by gorgh gorgh
looks really nice... but what photon said...
only "nice" effect was the cube... the rest is more or less one effect a polystream... so piggy for me...
added on the 2019-04-24 08:04:16 by ultra ultra
very nice demo!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 09:48:43 by _mrplow _mrplow
Don't you forget that parts without 'in your face' effects/routines are hell of a code too, sometimes even more. Here, nice routines were seamlessly embedded into story/graphics which seem to confuse people looking purely for code. Yep, story demos still can have a great code, surprise, surprise! :D Rotating cube was actually the only part that stood out being rather loose fit.
added on the 2019-04-24 10:13:58 by jammer jammer
A really nice and atmospheric demo. Good job!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 10:21:36 by britelite britelite
O.M.G.!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 10:28:36 by w0lf w0lf
Sorry, seems like a glorious bitmap scrolling and vector anim fest to me. The only realtime effect worth mentioning is the tiny textured Cube.
sucks added on the 2019-04-24 10:28:47 by arm1n arm1n
Quote:
Sorry, seems like a glorious bitmap scrolling and vector anim fest to me. The only realtime effect worth mentioning is the tiny textured Cube.


You sure that cube is not anim fest either with selective line display? ;)
added on the 2019-04-24 10:51:02 by jammer jammer
So f*cking great!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 11:30:54 by __sam__ __sam__
If only I could find a good emoji for Kalms reaction to seeing my reaction to seeing this on the big screen !!!!

This was the perfect ending to the best Amiga compo for what seems like an EON
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 12:01:35 by DanLemon DanLemon
My favorite thing about this demo is how efficiently The Black Lotus demonstrated how effects are an obsolete part of Demos and graphical work and raw emotional content are far more important and noteworthy. Meaningless technical achievements fall into desuetude as the avenues for exploitation grow ever more narrow. Maybe then Demoscene will finally reach maturity as we realize the value of an artist is far greater than that of the coder.

It's actually really great how we all seem to see through the slightly larger pixels straight into the demo; not even many PC productions achieve that, and we're talking about an A500 here, something I—and many others—missed during the compo entirely. Soul transcends all else.

I cried during the encore at the end of the prize ceremony.
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 12:19:18 by noby noby
Runs on a regular factory A500? OCS!
This increases the appeal!

A such nice and mature way of telling a beautiful history using the effects and demoscene stuff as a vehicle to archieve, better than being FX the concept on a pastiche dadaist-cake with 150bpm hard-tech-rave music.

You can still raising a couple of degrees the temperature of a CPU by telling a story and amusing while showing your tricks.

The rational and clever use of the hardware limitations to show us a "drawn" reality intead of trying to failing reproducing true reality at 2fps.
2d and 3d wisely mixed.
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 12:42:40 by JaK JaK
mental!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 13:06:21 by okkie okkie
love the story, love the music
Scali is right, it has an Another World feel
Watched already 5+ times, really awesome demo!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 13:26:16 by shadez shadez
Has to go down as one of the best Amiga OCS demos of all time! Yes every demo is not pure technical wizardry, a demo is to entertain and amaze, and even 32 years later when a demo does that, even more so now than in say 1992, then you know it will be remembered as a classic. Bring on the non trackloading version so the rest of us can watch on real hardware!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 13:42:29 by amigajay amigajay
While almost everybody else in the compo tried to make their demo look PC'ish, this one took the limitation of the machine and just ran with it.
I had had goosebumps at the fox scene, so smooth and damn good!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 13:47:42 by mog mog
Thanks everyone with the positive comments. We knew from the start that this would be a demo that wouldn't appeal to everyone and we are fine with that as we are happy with the result.

Also regarding some issues on different hw. We will be trying very hard to have this demo as compatible as possible for the final version and as stated in the readme a non-trackloaded version will be released at the same time.

We don't have an ETA for it yet because we/I worked very hard on it until the end and will take a break before starting to fix the remaining issues we want to fix.

Again, Thanks everyone. Reading the positive comments makes it all worth it.
added on the 2019-04-24 13:51:22 by emoon emoon
amazing
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 14:01:53 by halcy halcy
Hmmm, somehow didnt really catch me. Feels too much like 9 fingers 2019. Only without the action. On the other hand it contains subpixel rendering on OCS. And that´s something really hard to achieve in proper quality and speed. So piggy it is...
added on the 2019-04-24 14:25:49 by axis^oxy axis^oxy
total & utter rulez! Waiting for hdd-friendly version!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 14:55:56 by tehKaiN tehKaiN
I like it very much. About technical section, I would like someone to explain to me how the hell have played a 500k mod in a stock A500. What kind of witchcraft is this?
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 16:00:15 by estrayk estrayk
We stream and mix drum samples on the fly in the demo. We have ~200k of chip memory dedicated to the samples but they aren't all loaded at the same time.
added on the 2019-04-24 16:21:58 by emoon emoon
Also Hoffman is doing a write up on how this works in more detail. So stay tuned for that :)
added on the 2019-04-24 16:40:25 by emoon emoon
best production of the party! good that
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it belongs more in the realms of contemporary digital art
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 17:16:18 by waffle waffle
Watching it again I get this feeling I'm watching a video done by someone emulating old computer style (snes/amiga) using a modern machine and compositing software without having to actually deal with the old limits (like some pixel-art inspired video or synthwave flick... or PICO-8!?!). Except it is actually running on the real thing with all the pain that involves.
added on the 2019-04-24 18:45:10 by rloaderro rloaderro
This was fucking fantastic!!!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 18:52:03 by ghandy ghandy
Definitely an ECS milestone, please, please do a detailed writeup about the used tech.
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 19:17:00 by Nitro/Black Sun Nitro/Black Sun
Great
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 19:28:23 by bitl bitl
Impressive storyline and music!
Graphics could be more polished.
Code, Spaceballs already invented it 25 years ago.

In any case, a fascinating show!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 19:51:33 by Rhino/BG Rhino/BG
As always fantastic demo from TBL!! Thank you!! :)
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 20:08:26 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
wonderful, great story & design!
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 20:16:10 by Asato Asato
Streaming samples, there must be some seriously interleaved data on those disks. :D
added on the 2019-04-24 21:47:48 by Dma-Sc Dma-Sc
Tries to find something apposite to say - fails miserably.

TBL artistry is unmatched, snuggles down comfortably to the lower end hardware and the storyline is stronger and more coherent with this one.

Art for art's sake,
TBL for God's sake.
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 22:41:29 by CiH CiH
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Watching it again I get this feeling I'm watching a video done by someone emulating old computer style (snes/amiga) using a modern machine


Thanks for hitting me over the head with this thought, Loady. It didn't come to me during the compo, but you're absolutely spot on. This feels like what Valenberg did for Pertubator's "Sentient" ... but on the real genuine article.
Guys nagging about the "missing tech" and "lack of records broken", I don't know what the fuzz is all about. Reading the info text of the production it is pretty clear where the tech and the record breaking happened: behind the curtain in order to asure the execution of this marvellous animated graphic novel.

And the Hoff better starts writing that paper about the sample switching ... and deliver it at 10 a.m. XD
rulez added on the 2019-04-24 22:42:49 by d0DgE d0DgE
I'll be honest - this demo single-handedly reignited my love for the demoscene and inspired me to initiate and contribute to more productions in my group.

It is such an amazing production, the pacing, the moods, the execution... when the sleeping girl started turning I lost my shit.

I watched it about 20 times now, I showed it to my brother... my parents... friends... everyone. They all love it, even if they have no idea what the demoscene is.

Mad fucking props.
rulezcdc added on the 2019-04-25 00:29:25 by oerg866 oerg866
Holy shit
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 08:02:32 by raina raina
Best TBL demo since 2006.
Very well deserved win.
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 10:56:27 by Frost Frost
Awesome everything!
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 12:36:18 by gligli gligli
great works guys
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 12:45:32 by metal metal
Stylish.
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 13:12:29 by jimmi jimmi
Oozing with style. incredible. Amiga spirit still strong there
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 15:08:16 by tovi tovi
What Paradroid said!
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 15:25:50 by Daniel Daniel
Yes mate
rulezcdc added on the 2019-04-25 15:43:11 by syphus syphus
great atmosphere, exquisite style and superb soundtrack
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 16:27:30 by a-move a-move
no words. this is the best amiga ocs/ecs production ever. period.
rulezcdc added on the 2019-04-25 16:34:08 by cosmicollie cosmicollie
What frost said.
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 16:40:25 by malmix malmix
This is how i like amiga demos, impressive and on a stock machine .
BTW hoffman strikes again, congarts guys .
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 18:58:51 by TOUKO TOUKO
For those complaining about the vector animation, really, are we having the same argument we had back in 1992?

What did this and the winning PC demo have in common? Direction. It matters much more than effects these days. Also, I think we've been so jaded with TBL's 060 releases that some people are forgetting this is a 7 MHz machine with 1 MB RAM... oh, and running from two floppy disks.

A couple nitpicks though: the lightning could use some anti-aliasing, and the graphic of the two people at the end didn't look good, compared to the rest.
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 19:11:02 by phoenix phoenix
!Amazing!
I can't believe it!
Very big Thx for TBL !!

It only runs from 500. :O
rulez added on the 2019-04-25 22:12:35 by thomas^sd thomas^sd
Holy shhhit! I can't imagine how I would feel seeing this on my A500 even 20 years ago, as today it makes me eye watery. And imagine seeing it in 1987... This prod alone would justify creation of that soul-having piece of hardware. When I saw that lovely girl in this demo I thought "this is Amiga" : )
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 01:37:37 by rutra80 rutra80
Great graphics and music! I simply love such amazing graphics with limited color palette. Also thumbs up for doing 3D and FMV on Amiga 500!
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 08:45:30 by Adok Adok
Really awesome!
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 09:13:22 by decruncher decruncher
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Thank you TBL ^ ^
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 10:14:00 by mikedafunk mikedafunk
amazing direction
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 10:25:44 by zeebr zeebr
Nice one.
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 13:03:07 by violator violator
killer soundtrack, that alone deserves a thumb already. i'm with some of the naysayers on the effects: i now shit about the constraints the ancient hardware puts onto creativity, but i see a lot of scrolled and playback stuff. There is little else going on. That said, it's still uberawesome, a piece of art in its own category =)
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 13:52:03 by HellMood HellMood
\o/
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 15:29:39 by hornet hornet
Instant classic! Wow...
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 21:07:06 by Neraka Neraka
There's for sure a lot of work involved (story telling graphical art, music, story telling). But I'm still wondering about the technical aspects vs machine specs.... Nice to watch anyway.
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 21:07:47 by ok3anos ok3anos
Decent. :)
added on the 2019-04-26 21:51:21 by AntDude AntDude
Wow. Definitely in my top 10 OCS demos and i'm a huge fan of Hoffman's music in this. Amazing to see stuff like this being created in 2019. Respect to you all.

The only thing that jarred for mewas the end graphic of the two people floating. It just looked at odds with the art direction of the rest of the demo. Also, my stock A500 it doesn't detect the disk swap and I end up with garbled graphics.

Otherwise beautiful.
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 22:03:06 by CoffeeNinja CoffeeNinja
Superb
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 23:15:24 by Mlake Mlake
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Has anyone managed to run this on real HW with Gotek+Cortex floppy emulator? For me it fails to detect the disk swap, so the icon keeps showing then after a while garbage graphics appear.


I just saw it right now on an A600 with a CRT monitor and a GOTEK (FlashFloppy firmware). It looks incredible.

Congratulations to the entire TBL team!

There are people here and there saying that this demo is just an animation. I would like to see them trying to make a better demo in this style. :]
rulez added on the 2019-04-26 23:39:58 by ham ham
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My favorite thing about this demo is how efficiently The Black Lotus demonstrated how effects are an obsolete part of Demos and graphical work and raw emotional content are far more important and noteworthy.

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Instant all-time OCS/ECS #1

This, this, this many times. Eon doesn't simply set the new bar for A500—it sends it through the stratosphere chasing the Roadster near the Mars orbit. Every single aspect polished to perfection, be it direction, visuals, or music. Oozes confidence and style from the first to the last moment. Consistently provides superior aesthetics without any regard for sanity or hardware limitations. Works as a standalone music video. Wow. Holy shit. This is just... Wow! I feel incredibly honored to have seen this in person at the party.
rulezcdc added on the 2019-04-27 01:27:48 by moozooh moozooh
whoaoaooaoaooaooaoaooaoao
rulez added on the 2019-04-27 01:41:36 by blackpawn blackpawn
Lurking on Pouet since 15 years or so, but never registered.
This demo now made me register finally, as I felt the urge to give thumbs up!
rulez added on the 2019-04-27 07:01:37 by BenE BenE
bravo pour moi la meilleure demo a500
rulez added on the 2019-04-27 10:11:53 by cryodav76400 cryodav76400
damn! yes yes yeeess! and this msx track: the class itself
rulez added on the 2019-04-27 11:51:55 by unity1 unity1
And here is Hoffmans write up on the sample streaming and drum mixing we use https://hoffman.home.blog/2019/04/27/eon
added on the 2019-04-27 11:57:23 by emoon emoon
How you layer graphics and effects is just brilliant and you can keep it up throughout the whole demo.
Also clever use of shadows and the background and let the viewer's perception fill in the rest in the 3D parts. I didn't notice this at all when watching it the first time.
Really great work in all departments! And happy 30th Anniversary :-)
rulez added on the 2019-04-27 13:13:05 by r1g8 r1g8
Probably everything is already written above. Eon shows how much you can (still) do with our good, old A500. Great work! I hope it is not the end of OCS surprises from you guyz.
rulez added on the 2019-04-27 15:44:10 by slayer slayer
Somehow I cannot quite make the connection of the scene with the two levitating (?) at the end with the rest of the demo, and it was probably the weakest scene overall, but wow - this is just excellent. So much style, and everyone complaining that there is no tech wankery in there should just read h0ffman's write-up. Double thumb up!
rulez added on the 2019-04-27 18:21:17 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
I hugely appreciate the write-up by H0ffman and I hope that more write-ups will follow. Very inspiring work!
added on the 2019-04-27 18:59:32 by introspec introspec
All important things have been said. It's really impressive. Here we can realize the real value of the coder because he creates great tools great artists can work with.
rulez added on the 2019-04-27 19:42:34 by neoman neoman
Many thanks for the music system write up, this is supra-interesting.
added on the 2019-04-27 22:12:03 by Dma-Sc Dma-Sc
Nice writing H0ffman! (still reading it, very interesting ;p)
this demo is a pefrect litmus test separating the people who dig the deep meaning of the demoscene and the "waa-waa-i-need-realime-3d-cubes-and-plasmas"-guys who stuck in 90s for good.
added on the 2019-04-27 22:48:46 by sq sq
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For those complaining about the vector animation, really, are we having the same argument we had back in 1992?


I hope so. Sorry that it might annoy you.

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What did this and the winning PC demo have in common? Direction. It matters much more than effects these days.


Jesus, since when do you decide what matters to other individuals?
If direction and fancy scrolling pictures are all that matters, then what has the demoscene to offer compared to pre-rendered motion graphics?

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Some people are forgetting this is a 7 MHz machine with 1 MB RAM... oh, and running from two floppy disks.


If I compare this production to e.g. the classic Hardwired, I feel the latter still produces more wow-factor and goose bumps coming from two floppies. And that demo was done in 1991.
added on the 2019-04-28 06:26:31 by arm1n arm1n
stock a500? jesus
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 08:17:34 by Weyland Yutani Weyland Yutani
Crazy for Amiga 500
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 09:47:03 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
what a prod! the wolf in the woods alone deserves a thumb. and the scene with the washing machine cube is on point with the tune. goosebumps. fantastic transition from 2 to 3d at the girl. deserved winner.
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 14:14:00 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
hardwired's fucking boring
added on the 2019-04-28 14:29:58 by noby noby
noby: Still at least this and Hardwired have an identity. Even the game-changing groups like MFX, Orange or Panoramic Design took the origins of the medium on-board.
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 14:51:41 by 4mat 4mat
Masterpiece
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 14:58:18 by peturba peturba
I think people complaining about the vector animations are missing a key point.

Given floppy disk speed, the computing power of a 7Mhz 68000, and the slowness of chipram, compared to the number of polys, the amount of animation and the framerate, these parts are not a cop out, they are actually incredibly technically impressive in and of themselves, not just pretty.

As far as I can tell, the code is just as hardcore as the design. So even if you judge this on the traditional technical metrics on which demos were judged, it's still amazing.
added on the 2019-04-28 15:11:22 by xeron xeron
A fresh high quality production for ECS. Incredibly amazing.
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 19:08:31 by mailman mailman
Because of this I'm gonna undust and restart my A600 today. #impressed #stunned #wish #1992
rulez added on the 2019-04-28 19:51:12 by twh twh
Absolute sorcery.
added on the 2019-04-28 22:44:42 by Byproduct Byproduct
That what fucking ace for a simple A500. Would be still good @68060 ;)
rulez added on the 2019-04-29 09:35:06 by vscd vscd
This is a super piece of work.
rulez added on the 2019-04-29 09:56:35 by Korvkiosken Korvkiosken
What spike said.
added on the 2019-04-29 10:43:59 by mueslee mueslee
Ah, meh. Thumb for great music and gfx. Code-wise this thing is weak, though.
rulez added on the 2019-04-29 10:45:04 by mueslee mueslee
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Code-wise this thing is weak, though.

lol, start reading!
https://hoffman.home.blog/2019/04/27/eon/

And that's just the sound-department.
added on the 2019-04-29 10:56:47 by d0DgE d0DgE
It was awesome being in this übercompo with you guys. Everyone was so excited afterwards with that many top demos in the ring.

Just rewatched Eon on my A500 at home now. The amount of work you put into this is enormous, and the reported 1000+ hours for the graphics and direction alone are insane. What a dedication to details. Good start with the phone ringing, clever use of depth parallax in 2D and 3D, and a great dance with references to 9 Fingers. Lovely! Makes me wonder if the dancer in Rift was already deliberately "downscaled" a bit to prepare viewers for this?

Overall a piece of art. Loved every minute of it. Respect!

PS: The gfx when man and women finally meet are a bit weird. She looks teethless and he looks like a geezer. But maybe they are just surprised? I would be.
rulez added on the 2019-04-29 11:06:03 by noname noname
i'd also like to join the group remarking about the last shot of the two people: it looks awkward and not up to the quality of the rest of the demo, but also too direct and obvious (in the spirit of "show, don't tell")
added on the 2019-04-29 11:21:14 by noby noby
When it comes to the part when the man and woman meet we know it's the weakest part of the demo currently.

We had temp graphics for pretty much all the way until some days before the partp and then when we looked at the whole demo it was very obvious it didn't/doesn't hold up to the rest but it was simply too late to do any big changes at that point.

That being said I think the idea is good but the execution is being bad here. I hope that we can make this part better for the final because none of us are really happy with it right now.
added on the 2019-04-29 11:36:19 by emoon emoon
A deserved winner of the whole Revision 2019! About the demo itself: super nice to see such quality implemented on good old A500 - a very well executed and solid demo proving why everybody should finish their prods in time ;).

You rarely see such good design & tech in any demo <3.
rulez added on the 2019-04-29 12:57:34 by deepr deepr
Fantastic!
rulez added on the 2019-04-29 18:26:14 by Mystra Mystra
This is a great demo! I really enjoy it. Good work guys!
rulez added on the 2019-04-29 22:39:12 by krikkit krikkit
Second thumb for the extreme tracking efforts🤙
added on the 2019-04-30 06:20:57 by rloaderro rloaderro
Great direction!
rulez added on the 2019-04-30 09:01:41 by toms toms
Astonishing. A breed of its own.

Oh, it's so funny to read comments from clueless dudes who don't even know where to start to make anything close to this, much less on a 500. ;P
rulez added on the 2019-04-30 12:01:37 by skan skan
THIS is coding, THIS is a demo that runs on real hardware and not "just" a good 3D software engine that draws on a framebuffer with a c2p routine and streamed mp3 music, which runs on emulators and requires a CPU power that the Amiga has never reached...

Pure art and genius.
added on the 2019-04-30 12:08:59 by TAD TAD
Jaw dropper, however the man vs woman scene killed it a little. Still worthy winner and thumbs of course.
rulez added on the 2019-04-30 12:54:01 by jvb jvb
Well deserved 1st place in the compo and well deserved "best in show" overall!
Truly an artistic masterpiece!
rulez added on the 2019-04-30 15:08:24 by SuTeKH/Epyteor SuTeKH/Epyteor
Really good. Builds atmosphere. Plz make a final with a good last scene.
rulez added on the 2019-04-30 16:40:05 by raer raer
A little bit slow at the beginning but the end is really perfect with this clever 3d. The soundtrack is superb too!
A great success!!
rulez added on the 2019-04-30 22:44:55 by Hicks Hicks
I prefer demos with more effects and less animations, but ok, this one is fine.
rulez added on the 2019-05-01 20:48:03 by Skynet Skynet
Breathtaking design and a truly killer soundtrack.
rulez added on the 2019-05-01 23:17:46 by Mibri Mibri
Nice atmosphere... sometime look like 9 fingers/spaceballs.
Great.
rulez added on the 2019-05-01 23:32:21 by Beb Beb
Wow. One of the best demos ever for me.
rulez added on the 2019-05-02 09:46:14 by ratz ratz
Any ideas how to get it run on a A600 2mb and gortek drive?

I tried to switch all drives off except DH0: it boots direct to hdd still.
Amazing job! Great demo! Instant classic on A500
rulez added on the 2019-05-02 13:01:10 by Flops Flops
Heaven: That sounds odd. While we are looking into fixing a bunch of issues for the final version we haven't heard about that one before and I guess you mean you switched of all drives except DF0?
added on the 2019-05-02 15:27:47 by emoon emoon
@emoon

Yes. In boot menu. Advanced options. Disabled all except df0:

I took the ADFs linked here and put them on the flash drive.
Superb direction - great design!
rulez added on the 2019-05-03 08:48:49 by voxy voxy
Haven: can you drop me a mail to qnavry@pbyyva.pbz (rot13, reverse here https://www.rot13.com) with more details on your setup and we can try to figure it out. We have had other people running this on a600 so it's a bit weird.
added on the 2019-05-03 10:11:03 by emoon emoon
This demo just feel like a dream.

And this music, holy shit, ne of my favorite H0ffman piece.
rulez added on the 2019-05-03 11:41:22 by maeln maeln
@emoon @heaven worked perfectly fine on my 1mb A600 with gotek
added on the 2019-05-03 20:01:58 by magic magic
phenomenal presentation.
i hardly remember what an a500 could do but i am sure it wasn’t this.
rulez added on the 2019-05-03 22:42:06 by fiver fiver
Instant classic.
rulez added on the 2019-05-04 00:29:40 by fenarinarsa fenarinarsa
great direction
rulez added on the 2019-05-04 06:49:34 by krusty krusty
cool! :) but I very hate whis lightnings
rulez added on the 2019-05-04 10:51:04 by SerzhSoft SerzhSoft
Rulez!
rulez added on the 2019-05-04 13:07:30 by at0m at0m
This is 100% demoscene; Thank you guys, this is AWESOME!
rulez added on the 2019-05-05 16:41:24 by tifeco tifeco
fuck off
rulez added on the 2019-05-06 10:52:39 by jasuy jasuy
Plain awesome!
rulez added on the 2019-05-06 13:25:49 by lordnkon lordnkon
I cried when watching it
rulez added on the 2019-05-06 13:45:21 by _-_-__ _-_-__
What the fuck
rulez added on the 2019-05-08 10:18:53 by Agilo Agilo
Leaves me speechless
Instant-classic !!!
rulez added on the 2019-05-08 23:54:15 by EviL EviL
Art masterpiece ! Awesome Amiga 1200 demo ... Oh, wait !
rulez added on the 2019-05-09 21:48:23 by Orion68k Orion68k
I noticed that, most screens only use 16 colors, maybe an Atari STe could be considered using the Hacked Lance MOD replayer ?
added on the 2019-05-12 18:49:13 by Orion68k Orion68k
Sorry but we have no plans to port to Atari STe
added on the 2019-05-12 19:06:55 by emoon emoon
This is fantastic ! :)
rulez added on the 2019-05-13 14:21:54 by .. ..
Excellent music and great design which makes one forget about the pretty neat code, i.e. it's not important if what you can see on screen was hard to code or not. You just watch the demo and feel entertained, really great work.
rulez added on the 2019-05-13 18:01:22 by StingRay StingRay
Absolute highlight of the party - I finally ran it at home on my A500 and still can't believe it's running on the good ol' stock Amiga. Masterpiece. The flow, the atmosphere, the music the direction is all top notch.
Thanks for the (music) tech write-up, I hope there's more to come.
rulez added on the 2019-05-14 13:18:59 by v3nom v3nom
Will take some popcorn, a nice sofa and will watch it again...
rulez added on the 2019-05-14 14:06:36 by baah baah
The fluent Tai Chi moves look awesome.
rulez added on the 2019-05-14 17:27:47 by wabe wabe
I was wondering how the sound/textures/other streaming data was crammed into running on the Amiga 500 towards the end of the demo, when watching at Revision.
Thanks for shedding a bit of light on this already :)

Allthough I'm "too young" to appreciate OCS demos fully, this is just a great demo in its own regard, let alone that it's running on an obsolute computer :)
added on the 2019-05-14 22:17:24 by Puryx Puryx
stunning.
rulez added on the 2019-05-15 00:38:38 by iks iks
Wow, that's beautiful!
rulez added on the 2019-05-16 14:32:23 by luke luke
I certainly have high expectations on future releases from the people trashtalking the tech behind this.

I like the comparison with Hardwired, because it well illuminates the key difference between a demo like this, and a demo like that.

Hardwired is all about the tech, and it's very explicit with what's happening at every point in the demo. Don't fully grasp what you're seeing? No worries, there's a text on the screen summarising the technical details of every scene, to make sure you don't accidentally miss a coding achievement.

In Eon, the tech is not part of the showcase, except indirectly (though I could argue the cube was a bit explicitly showy). Immediately after seeing this I thought of Booze Design's 2005 gem of a demo, "Tsunami", which some people had similar complaints about. "Where is the tech??". Of course it was there if you knew where to look, but the demo was so mature and confident it didn't feel the need to focus on each and every transgression of made limits, instead relying on understatement and subtlety to convey the achievements to those who would get it.

As I recall HCL eventually posted a list of all the world-first and records in the demo which seemed to dampen the "wheres mah tech??" criticism somewhat.

But just as an exercise, why don't the good Amiga coders who've complained about the lack of technical achievement here (I've seen a couple of you) just get together and release a proof-of-concept demonstrating that this sort of thing isn't hard? Should be a fairly quick effort, right?
added on the 2019-05-17 07:18:22 by Radiant Radiant
I really like how smooth the animation. Great story telling.
rulez added on the 2019-05-20 23:33:25 by Travis Travis
Enjoyed the writeup about the music. A writeup for the whole demo would be lovely
added on the 2019-05-22 10:44:20 by Emufr3ak Emufr3ak
damn fine!
rulez added on the 2019-05-23 19:38:26 by evilpaul evilpaul
I make a comment after a long time, but certainly, this must be good demo.
The power which stands out was a point as hardware as AmigaECS and was perfect in all sound and production.
Starstrack was more impressive in the TBL demo I saw, but this demo feels a new challenge.
rulez.
rulez added on the 2019-05-26 10:07:00 by got got
I'm usually not a fan of stuff on old platforms, but the design and music is just perfect, here!
rulez added on the 2019-05-27 22:06:30 by shuffle2 shuffle2
Also, how is this even possible....
added on the 2019-06-05 02:00:40 by jco jco
Just great.
rulez added on the 2019-06-10 00:32:41 by Dredd Dredd
Totally freaking awesome!

Just watched yet another DUST-episode. Graphics inspired by "The Secret Number"?

https://youtu.be/qXnFr1d7B9w?t=623
rulez added on the 2019-06-12 11:05:01 by JackAsser JackAsser
Hows the final version coming along, any nearer to release?
added on the 2019-06-15 16:48:38 by amigajay amigajay
Awesome!
rulez added on the 2019-06-16 19:46:19 by good good
Sorry the final version is a bit delay as some people are busy with real life. Will update when I know more.
added on the 2019-06-18 14:05:07 by emoon emoon
Superb OCS DEMO. Awesome !!
rulez added on the 2019-06-30 05:42:17 by EquinoxeZX EquinoxeZX
This is just awesome.
Watched it on my A500+ and I am still totally flashed!
A WHDLoad Slave would be awesome though :)
rulez added on the 2019-07-06 11:12:30 by xterminated xterminated
Awesome production, and a nice surprise to see an A500 demo from TBL! It actually encouraged me to refurbish an old A500 to run this. The highlights for me were the rotating cube, wolf scene and dance scene. However the quality of some of the still graphics did not do the A500 justice (ordered dither looks terrible) and it would have been nice to have a few more cool effects like the rotating cube. I hope TBL will do more A500 prods in the future as there's definitely a lot more for them to explore on the tech side.
rulez added on the 2019-07-07 01:02:50 by COBRA COBRA
We have started with our tech write up on the demo now. First post on tooling can be found here http://tbl.nu/2019/08/20/Tooling
added on the 2019-08-20 22:48:30 by emoon emoon
Interesting read. Deluxe68 sounds quite useful
added on the 2019-08-22 18:40:34 by Emufr3ak Emufr3ak
Part two is up: http://tbl.nu/2019/08/26/ScenePacker/
rulez added on the 2019-08-26 23:12:00 by dep dep
added on the 2019-09-02 15:17:05 by emoon emoon
Masterpiece of design, styl and hard work.
rulez added on the 2019-09-05 21:02:09 by yaneq yaneq
Hi here ^^

First: it's an awesome OCS jaw-dropping demo ! gg

second: any news about the final version ? I crave to launch it on my real A1200 from the hard drive ^^
rulez added on the 2019-09-10 12:51:06 by RaHoW RaHoW
More write ups! http://tbl.nu/2019/09/09/TrackLoader About final version: Yes, it's coming.
added on the 2019-09-10 12:55:11 by emoon emoon
Blew me away on the bigscreen. Still blows me away every time I watch it.
And big thanks for the technical write-ups!
rulez added on the 2019-09-10 15:01:19 by Kylearan Kylearan
OCS?! Really?! :) I didn't believe it! ...Oh! AWESOME!
rulez added on the 2019-09-12 16:10:37 by Silent Silent
un-fkn-real
rulez added on the 2019-09-12 21:46:06 by gentleman gentleman
Another writeup is available: https://tbl.nu/2019/09/16/SubPixelBlitterLines/
added on the 2019-09-18 17:14:18 by Kalms Kalms
Thanks Kalms! I had my nose pressed to the CRT trying to figure out how the everliving phek this subpixel movement was done.
added on the 2019-09-18 21:00:20 by d0DgE d0DgE
Magic!
rulez added on the 2019-09-29 16:21:15 by _nemo_ _nemo_
So fascinating and impressive. Thanks guys!
rulez added on the 2019-10-04 12:04:02 by rmb rmb
Great demo, however h0ffman's soundtrack borrowed a little bit too much from
sabrepulse - banish (especially after 1:12)

Beat, bass synth and atmosphere comes very close
- or is this a coincidence?
rulez added on the 2019-10-06 10:54:17 by air2k air2k
Quote:
Great demo, however h0ffman's soundtrack borrowed a little bit too much from
sabrepulse - banish (especially after 1:12)

Beat, bass synth and atmosphere comes very close
- or is this a coincidence?


In short no, first time I've heard this tune but I like it. However, both this and the soundtrack fit into the genre of Future Garage which is why they sound similar. You could say the same for different styles of Drun n Bass.

If you like this kinda music there is loads of it out there. Maybe check out this spotfy playlist I made..

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4eY1MUWucEcK5JQy6jIRPh?si=nGQzTIVWQdisKQHMZbkMBg
added on the 2019-10-08 15:03:03 by djh0ffman djh0ffman
Really enjoy the writeups. Shows the amount of tech and care to details that went into this.
added on the 2019-10-10 16:57:22 by Emufr3ak Emufr3ak
Is it possible to make this run on an A1000 with FastRAM?
On my setup the demo starts and works fine until the first solar eclipse right after the asteroids flyby part at the beginning. After that i'll get corrupted graphics and audio. :-/
rulez added on the 2019-12-26 23:54:19 by Cego Cego
Goosebumps
rulez added on the 2020-01-09 23:08:18 by Flux Flux
nice demo, cool music (especially the first half) and great breakthrough performance but it should be presented in Wild category...
added on the 2020-01-19 22:38:32 by 100bit 100bit
Quote:
nice demo, cool music (especially the first half) and great breakthrough performance but it should be presented in Wild category...


Why exactly? It doesn't need any exotic Amiga hardware configuration.
added on the 2020-01-19 23:20:33 by d0DgE d0DgE
Quote:
Why exactly? It doesn't need any exotic Amiga hardware configuration.

due to the number of animations... nevermind.
added on the 2020-01-19 23:32:04 by 100bit 100bit
Did you actually read any of the tech writeups? This demo is a little bit more than just a random animation player.
Forgotten thumb.
rulez added on the 2020-01-21 19:19:37 by LiSU^TRS LiSU^TRS
Quote:
due to the number ... nevermi-

Oh but I do mind. Please read the writeup to the development of this production (by Emoon, Kalms and Hoffman respectively).
Animation or not, there's enough coding kung-fu in there that totally legitimates this being shown in the proper competition, additionally it being executable on a standard Amiga 500 + 512k. You know that "Wild" is reserved for exotic hardware?
added on the 2020-01-21 20:37:58 by d0DgE d0DgE
i already said "great breakthrough performance" so i KNOW there is a lot of work for this demo. but if i see animations - they're animations, simple.
and i know that wild is for exotic hardware, but also for extra-exotic prods (dos isn't so exotic but some sizecoding works from 2018 iirc was in wild category) and also "animation prods", and i consider this one is the "animation prod".
you can call me "toxic thumbdowner" if you want... because it's partly true.
(and i think these posts are not worth to be here... nobody wants be banned, right? :D )
added on the 2020-01-21 21:10:32 by 100bit 100bit
Not my cup of tea... sorry.
I think demos are always a balance between realtime calculations versus size and memory usage. The interesting prods come forwards when you limit all of these.
added on the 2020-01-30 22:51:34 by rloaderro rloaderro
oh wait! someone is bitching about a TBL demo having animations. good to see nothing changed in the last ~15 years :P
Quote:
I think demos are always a balance between realtime calculations versus size and memory usage. The interesting prods come forwards when you limit all of these.

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added on the 2020-01-31 13:33:14 by noby noby
hell yea, soundtrack and demo pretty neat, one of the best 2019 amiga ocs demo
rulez added on the 2020-02-08 18:29:50 by nhan nhan
Mindblowing! This is indeed a masterpiece! Wow...
rulez added on the 2020-02-15 10:23:33 by can can
thumb up!!!
rulez added on the 2020-03-28 23:18:21 by pouetmk pouetmk
goosebumps
rulez added on the 2020-04-11 16:38:08 by Xyl2k Xyl2k
Heck yeah, amazing!
rulez added on the 2020-04-11 16:38:20 by crobisaur crobisaur
Amazing piece of work and all the more impressed after reading Hoffman's blog post about how the music was hacked together:
https://hoffman.home.blog/2019/04/27/eon/
rulez added on the 2020-04-12 01:31:35 by rhino rhino
This is the WTF for oldskool platform. Great soundtrack by H0ffman, cool graphics by Louie and etcetera
rulez added on the 2020-04-19 16:20:57 by vitalkanev vitalkanev
fuck
rulez added on the 2020-04-25 14:31:59 by prm prm
Does anyone know if there are still plans to release a verison of this that works on AGA?
rulez added on the 2020-04-28 11:26:58 by magpiespen magpiespen
magpiespen: Yes the final version (with AGA compatible hdd version) is coming. Sorry for the delay
added on the 2020-05-09 16:16:39 by emoon emoon
Absolutely loved it. Beautiful piece of art, and the fact it was done on the OCS, superb. The perfect demo.
rulez added on the 2020-06-27 05:54:07 by C0untWAVnstein C0untWAVnstein
WOW!!! <3
rulez added on the 2020-07-04 23:35:28 by TnT TnT
please aga hdd support ! :-)
classy
rulez added on the 2020-10-05 10:03:42 by velusip velusip
Real masterpiece!
rulez added on the 2021-01-05 11:41:34 by venex venex
Cowabunga!
rulez added on the 2021-01-29 19:57:08 by spiryt spiryt
Incredible! It's so future retro but with a modern soundtrack!
rulez added on the 2021-02-02 03:50:15 by freezedream freezedream
There were quite a few write-ups added to the authors' website without announcements here, so for all those who were following them as eagerly as I did, here is a link to a seemingly full collection: http://tbl.nu/posts/.
added on the 2021-02-24 11:45:30 by introspec introspec
Thanks for posting the posts links. It's not fully complete yet, I really hope to be able to write the last ones soon:ish.
added on the 2021-02-26 18:32:48 by emoon emoon
AMIGAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!
rulez added on the 2021-03-05 11:48:16 by Vato Vato
Very little redeeming factors in this kitsch- and animfest. Deserved winner of any animparty.
added on the 2021-03-09 13:55:03 by bifat bifat
Quote:
Very little redeeming factors in this kitsch- and animfest. Deserved winner of any animparty.

I would have thought that an Amiga coder has more appreciation for the coding challenges needed to pull a demo like this off. (Also there are readups explaining some of them actually)
added on the 2021-03-22 16:18:07 by v3nom v3nom
By far my favorite TBL demo, for once not an (admittedly, technically badass) salad of their usual gimmicks, but a stylistically, narratively unified demo. Eerie atmosphere, and a fav theme of mine.
rulez added on the 2021-04-07 21:12:18 by peregrine peregrine
Wow.....
rulez added on the 2021-04-29 09:16:19 by NokoNoko NokoNoko
venom, this demos requires one disks too many, and on one disk it still wouldn't be a great demo for my taste. What would a writeup change?
added on the 2021-04-29 09:49:05 by bifat bifat
The soundtrack is great, the technical nitbits getting around the memory limitations of the machine and the tooling are interesting (but e.g. sample swapping was done in 1992 (JoEs) and sample mixing for drum loops is, well, no magic).

However, this does not save it from having weak transitions (with visual bugs), ugly 8+7 colour graphics (is there any pixel art or are these just downcoloured 3D renders?) and well, yes, most of it is pre-calculated animation. The scenes also feel pretty much random. For 2019, I just can't see the innovation.
added on the 2021-05-20 14:48:19 by platon42 platon42
How about that subpixel precision blitter line algorithm by Kalms? Isn't that completely new either?
added on the 2021-05-20 19:43:24 by rloaderro rloaderro
I'm referring to this technique.

Anyway, I'm not going to forget in 1995 when we made our first demo "Kugalskap" in Amos using prerendered animations and TBL crew shouted "Animakjooon" in disgust followed by 3000 nerds booing my ass. Now look at yourself!!
added on the 2021-05-20 19:50:59 by rloaderro rloaderro
2 ugly colours, no design, forgettable music.
sucks added on the 2021-05-20 22:43:23 by kimi kardashian kimi kardashian
What I forgot to thumb this? Stunning in person at the party, on youtube, AND on the hardware. I have no idea what demo Kimi was watching.
rulez added on the 2021-05-20 23:20:24 by mantratronic mantratronic
Quote:
How about that subpixel precision blitter line algorithm by Kalms? Isn't that completely new either?


Scali had done this in 2011 already, see https://scalibq.wordpress.com/2011/12/28/just-keeping-it-real-part-5/

It also was discussed on EAB: https://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=62607

(CPU driven subpixel line drawing was probably around two decades earlier.)

Nonetheless, I am very grateful for Kalms making his code available.

However, in EON the subpixel blitter line drawing is not used in many places, because the animplayer uses the CPU to draw the lines (without subpixel resolution AFAIK).
added on the 2021-05-21 12:40:27 by platon42 platon42
The 3D scenes uses non-subpixeled CPU based linedrawing as the blitter is busy filling 3 bitplanes.

We thought about adding 1 or 2 bits of sub-pixel precision, but it the end decided not to because of higher CPU and storage usage and we wanted to keep the demo at 25 or 50 fps at all time.
added on the 2021-05-21 12:56:51 by emoon emoon
Hi emoon,
Wonderful work, simply amazing styling. Not a huge fan of the ominous diamond lightning thingy, but I get what it symbolises.
rulez added on the 2021-05-23 13:22:58 by baldrick baldrick
Instant classic.
OCS demos are the future !!
rulez added on the 2021-07-30 10:14:37 by mahenou mahenou
Hello. A year and a half has passed since the promise that a demo with the support of HDD and AGA will be released, we are tired of waiting)) Will there be an AGA and HDD demo at all? I apologize for my English, I am writing via google translator :)
added on the 2021-08-02 21:26:19 by apacher apacher
my fave Amiga Demo
rulez added on the 2021-10-13 01:34:44 by spacedog spacedog
i didnt even thumb this classic up... until now. soundtrack rules!!!
rulez added on the 2021-10-14 13:55:46 by no longer active no longer active
Great music and impressive tooling, but I agree with Photon and Bifat.
added on the 2021-12-02 05:41:28 by xeleh xeleh
Almost 3 years have passed, the promised version of AGA - HDD is still missing. I'm still waiting, waiting, waiting...
added on the 2022-02-05 20:34:02 by apacher apacher
Finally, had a chance to see this one on my real Amiga 500! What an outstanding production! Hard to believe it uses only OCS/ECS and looks maybe even better than most AGA demos!
rulez added on the 2022-03-17 09:42:56 by SoDa7 SoDa7
What an incredible atmosphere these artists managed to create, with the music as the star leader.
rulez added on the 2022-04-18 22:22:06 by adkd adkd
Still one of the best demo on Amiga !

@emoon : do you still plan to release a "final" HD loadable version ?
rulez added on the 2022-04-20 09:56:21 by Bruno Bruno
amazing :D
rulez added on the 2022-04-21 14:32:22 by FairArt FairArt
just wow! great atmosphere. Liked the transition to 3d vector movement extremely!
rulez added on the 2022-04-23 09:03:02 by davince davince
@Jami Yes, the plan is still to release a final version which will include a one file version of the demo, but no ETA yet.
added on the 2022-04-28 08:25:17 by emoon emoon
What Scali said / 2019-04-22 18:39:42.
I like the plot and the atmosphere, and the music continued to echo in
my head for quite a while after I had watched the great show.
By the way, there is an informative talk of Kalms about "advanced
basics" with the title "High-performance code on Amiga 500"
(www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v-TSNSMGPE)
rulez added on the 2022-04-29 13:12:17 by ROG_VF ROG_VF
excellent prod ! Any chance to make it fine on my 1230 ? Would be fine :) whatever wonderfulllllll démo ! kick ass and rulez ! thx TBL :)
rulez added on the 2022-05-07 18:10:19 by yogib33r yogib33r
Gets better over the years ... like a good wine.
rulez added on the 2022-05-07 18:26:59 by gaspode gaspode
Solid, remarkable presentation.
rulez added on the 2022-10-03 11:00:30 by dex46... dex46...
Amazing execution!
rulez added on the 2022-10-27 04:56:02 by wit3tyg3r wit3tyg3r
GR8! Specially, the developed toolset is mind-blowing. One thumb is simply not enough. Thank you.
rulez added on the 2022-10-27 09:21:18 by sachy sachy
One of the best Amiga demos ever!
rulez added on the 2022-11-13 22:17:42 by alx alx
Love this and needed to make sure I'd given it a thumbs up!
rulez added on the 2022-11-29 04:34:36 by Jobbo Jobbo
...final? ;-)
added on the 2022-12-05 01:16:01 by RufUsul RufUsul
Good but not great... And it's not for the OCS what Starstruck was for AGA.
added on the 2022-12-21 03:10:14 by mccnex mccnex
It was 2023, and no one saw the promised version for the AGA and HDD...
added on the 2023-01-01 17:38:29 by apacher apacher
What LeGend said, with adding that the soundtrack is brilliant.
rulez added on the 2023-07-04 10:14:51 by chavez chavez
Vraiment top !!!
rulez added on the 2023-09-03 00:09:12 by Davdee Davdee
Damn!
rulez added on the 2023-10-06 11:34:36 by Olympian Olympian
Ami :}
added on the 2023-10-06 12:20:59 by sBL Poet sBL Poet
Well, with no HD version in sight Paraj made a WHDLoad slave that runs the demo perfectly on faster amigas with a bit of fast mem. Download here:

https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=1646817&postcount=50

Rename the disks as disk.1 and disk.2 and load the whdload tbl-eon.slave .
added on the 2023-10-08 19:38:10 by TomCat666 TomCat666
forgotten and of course massive thumbs up - although I don't grasp why the two second barking dog footage from come to daddy was included.
rulez added on the 2023-10-18 22:22:12 by dwarf dwarf
OCS rulage
rulez added on the 2023-10-19 10:38:13 by cruzer cruzer
Quote:
Well, with no HD version in sight Paraj made a WHDLoad slave that runs the demo perfectly on faster amigas with a bit of fast mem. Download here:

https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=1646817&postcount=50

Rename the disks as disk.1 and disk.2 and load the whdload tbl-eon.slave .
Quote:
Well, with no HD version in sight Paraj made a WHDLoad slave that runs the demo perfectly on faster amigas with a bit of fast mem. Download here:

https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=1646817&postcount=50

Rename the disks as disk.1 and disk.2 and load the whdload tbl-eon.slave .


When dreams come true!

It work for me on my A1200, indiviion MK3 and my expansion card 8mo.

only a little poblem at 5m52s on video (during 4 seconds), but can reach the end.

I am very very very happy!!!

I put a video in http://eagleone.free.fr/VID_20231127_090130.mp4

Ludo Amiga for ever
rulez added on the 2023-11-27 11:25:01 by ludom88 ludom88
Quote:
Well, with no HD version in sight Paraj made a WHDLoad slave that runs the demo perfectly on faster amigas with a bit of fast mem. Download here:

https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=1646817&postcount=50

Rename the disks as disk.1 and disk.2 and load the whdload tbl-eon.slave .


When dreams come true!

It work for me on my A1200, indiviion MK3 and my expansion card 8mo.

only a little poblem at 5m52s on video (during 4 seconds), but can reach the end.

I am very very very happy!!!

I put a video in http://eagleone.free.fr/VID_20231127_090130.mp4

Ludo Amiga for ever

PS I missed... I only used icon launcher of Apidya and change SLAVE path
added on the 2023-11-27 12:19:04 by ludom88 ludom88
Talk of Andreas Fredriksson @ Handmade Seattle 2023 ->
https://vimeo.com/887527796/c9132ed6bc
added on the 2024-01-13 09:49:01 by RufUsul RufUsul
good
rulez added on the 2024-01-24 09:34:27 by spritus spritus
Quote:
Well, with no HD version in sight Paraj made a WHDLoad slave that runs the demo perfectly on faster amigas with a bit of fast mem. Download here:

https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=1646817&postcount=50

Rename the disks as disk.1 and disk.2 and load the whdload tbl-eon.slave .


Aha, thank you. Works a treat. Very very minor glitches but I'll take it.
A500+, Pistorm 68030, 2MB Chip + 128MB Fast
What a great piece of art in all possible ways. Loved it!
rulez added on the 2024-05-02 01:05:07 by noglin noglin
Nice!
rulez added on the 2024-05-30 20:05:48 by Amifan Amifan
Amazing!!
rulez added on the 2024-07-12 00:08:09 by tom526 tom526
yea...
rulez added on the 2024-07-12 13:50:37 by wrighter wrighter

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