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screenshot added by britelite on 2008-08-03 18:29:09
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release date : august 2008
release party : Assembly 2008
compo : oldskool demo
ranked : 3rd
  • rulez 74
  • is ok 15
  • sucks 3
popularity : 1%
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  • rulez 0.77
alltime top: #1070
added on the 2008-08-03 17:39:20 by britelite britelite

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The archive includes both a crunched and an uncrunched version, and I suggest you run the uncrunched one on a 000-machine :)

Will release an accelerator-fixed version later on, so don't even think of running it on your 060-amiga or UAE with JIT enabled.
added on the 2008-08-03 17:41:04 by britelite britelite
Very good, except that one particular slow cube-light-tunnel thing which really ruins it for me.
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 17:48:30 by visy visy
Very good, except that one particular slow cube-light-tunnel thing which really halts the enjoyment for me.
added on the 2008-08-03 17:48:53 by visy visy
fuck, busted. :(
added on the 2008-08-03 17:49:14 by visy visy
One of the good ones from party.
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 17:52:30 by Serpent Serpent
but you can watch it on something with even 16 Mhz and it'll run perfectly :)
added on the 2008-08-03 17:52:40 by dodke dodke
excellence
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 17:54:47 by aegis aegis
very nice
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 18:04:35 by Quarryman Quarryman
Good work Britelite :-)
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 18:28:39 by evil evil
Looks awesome on the screens...too bad i dont have an amiga anymore...
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 18:38:46 by Exin Exin
Well get one, everyone needs an Amiga.
Great a500 demo! Effects never seen on OCS before.
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 19:05:33 by jPV jPV
the tmapper was fcked up here. is there some way to remedy that?
added on the 2008-08-03 19:09:26 by loaderror loaderror
loaderror: you can wait for the accelerator-fixed version, because the smc-stuff really doesn't like cache
added on the 2008-08-03 19:10:21 by britelite britelite
Although the framerate was looow at times, I enjoyed this prod a lot. :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 19:18:51 by ruairi [rc55] ruairi [rc55]
i know texture mapping can be a pain to do well on a plain-jane a500, so, respect.
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 19:19:29 by phoenix phoenix
More like an a500+ or a600 prod but good anyway :]
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 19:20:47 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
Videos please so I can vidy it!
Not so easy to move stuff from my PowerMac to my CDTV. ;b
added on the 2008-08-03 19:40:16 by Hoild Hoild
Some scenes which I never thought possible on an A500 :). Low framerate in some parts, but hey, this is good stuff!
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 20:07:05 by Alpha C Alpha C
rulez!!
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 20:12:57 by Premium Premium
A fantastic production with amazing effects! Thank you guys for this! I'm totally blown away to see such a prod in 2008 for Amiga ECS.
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 20:22:27 by Bobic Bobic
Too bad I don't have any 68000 Amiga here that fulfills the memory requirements. :) And as the demo is funked up on my 4060 I'll have to wait for the 680x0 fixed version. :) The thumb has to wait for now as I don't want to watch it on UAE. :)
added on the 2008-08-03 20:34:16 by StingRay StingRay
video pls!
added on the 2008-08-03 21:03:45 by earx earx
Nothing special (to me)l, but a good solid demo nonetheless.
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 21:16:58 by DiamonDie DiamonDie
asking a lot from the 500...which is a good thing. really nice!
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 21:30:32 by button button
hyvin tehty pojat!
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 22:10:31 by nosfe nosfe
Now that I've seen the 680x0 fixed version (thanks BriteLite :D) there's only one thing to do:
rulez added on the 2008-08-03 22:44:13 by StingRay StingRay
nice one... but really too slow at some parts... and 2 mb is a bit too much... but anyway a new a500 demo ... thumbs up ;)
rulez added on the 2008-08-04 07:31:24 by ultra ultra
Awesomeness.
rulez added on the 2008-08-04 16:01:43 by Preacher Preacher
i like music and design screens here. code is obviously good, but demo not really touches me.
added on the 2008-08-05 00:37:59 by elfh elfh
Impressive effects and texture mapper for the 500 although it had some dirty rendering here but maybe it is the emulator and not an attempt to fake texture mapping with something ugly or anything :P
rulez added on the 2008-08-05 02:13:57 by Optimus Optimus
hope to see a video of this demo...
added on the 2008-08-05 09:16:28 by RA RA
Nice to see this with proper audio too...
rulez added on the 2008-08-05 09:23:42 by teel teel
Here's a new archive which also includes an accelerator/uae-fixed version of the demo.
added on the 2008-08-05 11:04:49 by britelite britelite
yeah :D
rulez added on the 2008-08-05 18:32:35 by elkmoose elkmoose
I can imagine the technical challenge in doing that on an Amiga ecs, but it's definitely a demo I will watch again later.
added on the 2008-08-05 19:44:08 by Dbug Dbug
Good work guys. I like it a lot. The music is great.
rulez added on the 2008-08-05 19:50:16 by dairos dairos
Great
rulez added on the 2008-08-05 19:57:14 by xeron xeron
Pretty great demo! Some of the scene would look better with a faster framerate but I guess it is still a pretty fast routine for that kind of machine :)

Big up!
rulez added on the 2008-08-05 20:04:00 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
pretty cool.
rulez added on the 2008-08-05 20:05:40 by Sir Sir
Small thumb up for this demo. Effects are very nice but also too slow for a good flow. Music doesn´t fit to the demo and is not really good at the beginning...

@evil: Thanks for the links, man!
rulez added on the 2008-08-06 09:49:56 by RA RA
Should've won. excellent stuff with good design
rulez added on the 2008-08-06 19:10:20 by waffle waffle
coherence!
rulez added on the 2008-08-06 23:24:52 by chavez chavez
my favorite in the compo.
rulez added on the 2008-08-07 05:56:50 by shock__ shock__
hell yeah! this rocks!
rulez added on the 2008-08-07 06:07:54 by Prot-DHS Prot-DHS
impressive, but I think it would have looked better if the sky was moving while the mountain was rotating.
rulez added on the 2008-08-07 09:02:50 by cruzer cruzer
ECS?:D kudos!
rulez added on the 2008-08-07 12:20:50 by comankh comankh
Cool design, impressive looking. The music isn't as strong as the visuals in my opinion, but is pretty cool.
rulez added on the 2008-08-07 15:25:18 by d3pth d3pth
To slow.
sucks added on the 2008-08-08 15:43:01 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
Nice demo for A500+! A bit slowish in some screens but i like it.
rulez added on the 2008-08-09 13:18:07 by Paranoid Paranoid
Same old chunky effects that appear in every Amiga demo, runs slow and the music is abysmal.

Seems to highlight the Amiga's shortcomings rather than its capabilities.
sucks added on the 2008-08-09 15:02:02 by Wade Wade
this is actually pretty good. the offset maps are indeed ancient but the 3D is quite solid. although, i'd rather have a bit less polys and running 12 fps+ or so. also, i liked the style.

only thing i didn't like was the extreme ram requirements.

overall, good job! gimme more!
rulez added on the 2008-08-09 15:25:17 by earx earx
Good enough. I'll thumb it up when the 512+512 diskloader version appears. ;)
@Wade
Way to miss the point. How many times have you seen these kinds of effects in a 68000/ECS demo?
added on the 2008-08-11 20:25:25 by xeron xeron
Xeron: Fair enough, it takes a lot of work to code on an ECS Amiga and I should show more courtesy by elaborating.

But it's not like these are AGA quality effects achieved on an A500. In my opinion they're A500 quality effects. My point is that cutting down effects to run on a lesser machine isn't so impressive to me and it comes at the cost of visual appeal (same reason I hate most post 1995 Amiga demos).

Personally, I prefer to see blitter, copper, sprite, parallax and scrolling effects because the Amiga does it so well. No disrespect intended towards the makers of this demo, but I think if you want to produce "big" effects, you may as well produce them on a "big" machine.
added on the 2008-08-12 16:44:04 by Wade Wade
wade, but aren't all the compos and categories with size or hardware restrictions about trying to push the limits? and since when were demos ever only about visual appeal and not the technical side at all?
added on the 2008-08-13 15:53:26 by dodke dodke
I share some points from both Xeron and Wade.
I highly honor the technical aspect of producing those chunky-fx on such a low level - being forced to heavily use (rape ;D ) the chipset.

On the other hand, I never really liked the look (gradiant colours etc.) of these fx. So -to go along with Wade's point- I'd rather appreciate high class A500 effects that look contemporary.

Thus, the thumb up for the great team effort and the code...I'll never be capable of doing this.
rulez added on the 2008-08-13 16:26:19 by d0DgE d0DgE
had to double-check if it's really for a500 :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-16 15:28:06 by fiveofive fiveofive
very very nice once
rulez added on the 2008-08-16 15:33:56 by relias abardon relias abardon
one
Quote:
since when were demos ever only about visual appeal and not the technical side at all?


They're not, but demos appeal to everyone for different reasons. As a designer/artist, I look for visual criteria over technical appeal. Many technical minded people will think the opposite.

Naturally I respect the ability of coders to achieve something like this, but it's just not my thing.

Everyone should take my perspective for what it is: just one man's opinion based on personal tastes.
added on the 2008-08-17 16:17:06 by Wade Wade
nice, but not revolutionnary, table based effects, the mapping looks relatively fast but the scenes are too damn heavy to run at an acceptable framerate.

gruik.
added on the 2008-08-17 16:33:42 by p01 p01
That is the right type of demo for an ECS Amiga. I missed it for years.
rulez added on the 2008-08-25 00:23:24 by emkay emkay
a bit disadvantaged by the missing audio channel at the party, übergreat technically and design-wisely, but imho it lacks the soul of renaissance and the next level so the 3rd place is quite fair :)
rulez added on the 2008-08-25 00:47:33 by Zest Zest
rulez added on the 2008-08-28 09:49:38 by kurli kurli
Expected this one to end up a bit better than 3rd, but...
rulez added on the 2008-08-28 17:26:19 by Maissi Maissi
Solid.
rulez added on the 2008-08-29 20:02:41 by [HamsTeR] [HamsTeR]
rulez added on the 2008-08-29 20:25:46 by chromag chromag
I'm with Slummy on this one, 512c+512f and a diskloader thank you very much! But I'm still thumbing it up. (=

The music is fantastic!

d0DgE said: On the other hand, I never really liked the look (gradiant colours etc.) of these fx. So -to go along with Wade's point- I'd rather appreciate high class A500 effects that look contemporary.

WORD!
rulez added on the 2008-08-29 23:57:56 by fxmj4598fj4598fj fxmj4598fj4598fj
real nice flow and atmosphere, awesome music.
rulez added on the 2008-08-30 20:56:52 by skrebbel skrebbel
Yeah!
rulez added on the 2008-09-06 22:30:37 by buzzer_ buzzer_
rulez added on the 2008-09-20 17:08:43 by iks iks
respect
rulez added on the 2008-09-26 21:47:01 by mad mad
nice
rulez added on the 2008-12-04 20:01:41 by zefyros zefyros
:)
rulez added on the 2008-12-09 05:03:35 by texel texel
Nice design and 3d scenes!
rulez added on the 2009-01-02 16:15:17 by exocet exocet
Yeah !
rulez added on the 2009-02-19 21:48:15 by frost242 frost242
Forgot to vote on this. Not many effects but a cool 3d scenes and overall great demo! The music one of the best on amiga ever.
rulez added on the 2009-02-19 21:52:46 by noby noby
...very nice co-op
rulez added on the 2009-03-15 18:47:14 by wayne wayne
It is so fucking great, looks like an AGA-demo. I have never seen such an ECS-demo in that quality before.
rulez added on the 2009-03-28 09:58:44 by Cj Cj
forget about my first comment. it's booooring! you can do better.
added on the 2009-09-03 22:05:33 by chavez chavez
and the music sucks.. compare it to zif's tune. what happened in 13 years??
added on the 2009-09-03 22:10:24 by chavez chavez
music
mappings, pink, blue
flying around a 3D mountain, texture mapped
3D stone rotating, texture mapped
3D stone cubes
4 3D stone stalagmites, turning
credit words
rulez added on the 2009-10-18 12:37:40 by BITS BITS
I suppose it's technically impressive for ECS, but otherwise just repeat of what's been in AGA/030/060 demos for years. Music is particularly unimpressive, not sure how Legend managed to produce something so unlistenable .. so piggy this time.
added on the 2009-10-23 08:50:59 by ccr ccr
well you know, just smashed the buttons when protracker was on, as usual
added on the 2010-03-06 21:33:44 by leGend leGend
Chavez & ccr, you are either in need of less drugs, or more of what you're already on.

Just sayin'.
rulez added on the 2010-03-07 01:56:21 by break break
that was not really fast
rulez added on the 2010-04-17 09:53:33 by provod provod
Wow, why haven't I seen this before? Music was very great. Too bad it's that slow, so just a piggy.
added on the 2010-04-17 10:05:51 by elend elend
want to rewatch this, still remember it.
rulez added on the 2010-04-21 00:21:32 by metoikos metoikos
What ccr said
added on the 2010-05-23 23:35:27 by Strider Strider
Oh my GOD! Should have won. Amazing stuff for Amiga ECS! Thank you Britelite I love your demos.
rulez added on the 2010-10-21 23:06:44 by jack-3d jack-3d
suxx
sucks added on the 2011-03-08 17:28:58 by dzedaii dzedaii
nice effort, but a bit to shaky 3d scenes for me
added on the 2011-08-07 21:43:47 by Frequent Frequent
pretty kool demo. i actually think the track is quite funky.
rulez added on the 2012-03-11 00:51:47 by gman gman
:)
rulez added on the 2012-08-31 01:01:02 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
impressive
rulez added on the 2013-06-12 22:12:18 by rudi rudi
I liked design and effects. Cool soundtrack.
rulez added on the 2013-06-12 22:22:46 by sm sm
Holy crap, that's impressive.
rulez added on the 2014-03-13 21:53:53 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
I would like to give a thumb up for really nice design and music, unfortunately 3d parts are so sloooow...
added on the 2014-06-27 17:56:21 by Cyprian Cyprian
nicey
rulez added on the 2014-10-22 20:24:35 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
yes, yes, and yes!
rulez added on the 2015-02-14 06:04:33 by keito keito
000 demo like a 060 demo in nineties...
rulez added on the 2015-08-01 23:03:57 by lvd lvd
not generic music.
rulez added on the 2015-08-01 23:18:31 by kimi kandler kimi kandler
Cool stuff.
rulez added on the 2015-08-01 23:23:19 by ham ham
Pretty cool but music did not appeal to me for some reason...
added on the 2015-08-23 01:12:33 by lennart lennart
like it

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