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I need to be fit. Any suggestions?

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the second addendum.

My motivation for weight loss was the desire to be healthy. Hips, knees, etc. Get this into your fat head. Being lighter is an empty desire. You want to be healthier, or sexier, whatever helps you.

In your food diary, log your weight, it will fluctuate day to day, morning to night, but it will go down.

Dont make weight loss your goal. You will fail and it will feel pointless, make keeping at it your goal. So make keeping the food diary your goal and ignore the weight. And as long as you keep your food diary for a week, you are already meeting goals. Weight loss is just a side effect of those. You cant conciously lose weight, making it a goal is pointless. You have no control over weight, you have control over what you eat, over how far you walk. Make things in your control your goal.

Go on a 20 minute walk every day. Good goal.
eat a piece of fruit twice a day (will totally kill hunger) good goal
lose 5 kg by xmas, Shitty shitty shitty pointless unacheivable dead end goal.
added on the 2009-11-06 09:32:36 by alumunum alumunum
My suggestion: Sportficken
added on the 2009-11-06 09:47:35 by v3nom v3nom
@trixter:

I know it's just Wiki but I think you wouldn't accept some essays by rather "dubious" sources - although from my perspective Wiki has devolved to a dubious source itself when it comes to politics and pharma-critics.
Anyway here you go

Think about this stuff what you want, but when Monstanto was involved
in the final market introduction - imma stay th hell away from it.
added on the 2009-11-06 10:30:46 by d0DgE d0DgE
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Go on a 20 minute walk every day. Good goal.
eat a piece of fruit twice a day (will totally kill hunger) good goal


I totally second that.
added on the 2009-11-06 10:32:26 by d0DgE d0DgE
I second the Sportficken-stragegy. Combines fun and burning energy in a unique way...
added on the 2009-11-06 11:06:18 by raer raer
i'm not sure what exactly it is, but i recommend you do exactly what wayfinder/fr did. check slengpung for results.
added on the 2009-11-06 13:20:28 by skrebbel skrebbel
sportficken ~ competitive fucking / endurance fucking / whatever
added on the 2009-11-06 14:32:00 by raer raer
Sorry to break this to you, but only a few and selected of us can be Fit :/
added on the 2009-11-06 17:49:31 by Marq Marq
Eat less chips, and play basketball every Saturday. (That worked for me.)
added on the 2009-11-06 17:53:32 by Defiance Defiance
@elfh : I'm 25 and have lived this way for 7 or so years. I would feel even better if I only got off my arse and started exercising. I would thus evacuate the stress that makes me smoke, and could quit smoking...
added on the 2009-11-06 19:08:20 by cxnull cxnull
As a rule of thumb it's usually best to lose some weight to become fit.
added on the 2009-11-06 19:11:04 by harism harism
So, Optimus, did you start making use of any of this info so far? :)
lol
added on the 2009-11-10 00:15:41 by havoc havoc
I was in Edinburgh. I just return. I couldn't have started this yesterday. I plan to try something from tomorrow. I don't promise anything to myself though because I have tried so many times..
added on the 2009-11-10 00:16:01 by Optimus Optimus
FIT != POUET != DEMOSKEEENNN
added on the 2009-11-10 01:30:11 by ferris ferris
I bought a packet of mini TWIX's and ate them all :'(
It was just €1.50, a big pack.
added on the 2009-11-10 03:07:52 by xernobyl xernobyl
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By "loads", I don't mean bucket loads. I'm assuming the readers here have a bit of common sense.

You'd most likely get full and bloated long before you gain excess fat from those lean protein sources.


Sorry, still have to call bullshit on this.

A few hours ago I returned from a having lunch with a room full of sumo wrestlers. (A very interesting experience, to be sure... If anyone's interested, I'm willing to elaborate.) A large portion of their diet is chicken and fish and tofu, and I assure you, they possess plenty of extra padding. (And don't forget, they work out regularly.)

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Not only is protein filling and keeps the hunger at bay, it will stop your body burning muscle mass instead of fat - an essential fact that too many dieters neglect.


And I'm calling bullshit on this too. The body only burns muscle tissue as a last resort -- when calorie intake is inadequate. If one were to eat only two slices of ham each day, the body eventually burn muscle despite one's diet being 100% protein. It's all about intake versus expenditure.

(For the record, eating cardboard also keeps "hunger at bay"...)
Ferris: That could still imply FIT == DEMOSKEEN.
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Sorry, still have to call bullshit on this.


Well, on this occasion I speak from personal experience and I most definitely know what I'm talking about.

Indeed, sumo wrestlers will eat a lot of protein because they need a solid and muscular core, but their fat certainly comes from other sources. When body builders are bulking up, they require a fair amount of carbs with their protein sources and they too are susceptible to some fat gain. However, when they enter their cutting phase, they maintain the protein intake and just lower their carb sources or increase cardio.

I made the mistake of neglecting protein in past diets and ended up all skin and bones. Now, when I need to drop fat I eat the equivalent of 3 chicken fillets, 3 eggs, 2 cans of tuna and 2 protein shakes (1 casein and 1 whey) in an average day and I only lift weights 3-4 times per week (no more than 30 minutes per session). The protein allows me to maintain muscle mass, which is what gives me a ripped athletic look, rather than an emaciated look.


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The body only burns muscle tissue as a last resort -- when calorie intake is inadequate.


Exactly. Whenever you diet, your calorie intake will be inadequate.

When you work months to build muscle mass, you soon realise how tough it is to maintain during diets. Just ask any bodybuilder.


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For the record, eating cardboard also keeps "hunger at bay"...


But why would you want to eat cardboard?
added on the 2009-11-10 08:59:59 by Wade Wade
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Well, on this occasion I speak from personal experience and I most definitely know what I'm talking about.


No, you don't. Here are the first four google entries for "protein poisoning":

http://ezinearticles.com/?Protein-Poisoning-Symptoms&id=181088
http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/the-dangers-of-a-high-protein-diet/introduction.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_starvation
http://library.rusbiz.com/article_index.html?id=1831

You're talking bullshit, and I speak as a 36 year-old who has been physically active and a healthy eater my entire life.
Oh come on, internet links? Not one of them has a picture of the author. A lot of this kind of advice is written by scrawny professors, withered “nutritionalists” or fat columnists. Personally, I don’t take diet or fitness advice from anybody unless they can back it up with physical results.


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No, you don't. …You're talking bullshit,


This insulting attitude will only embarrass you in the end. I've come across doubters before and I usually send them this link on my website...

http://www.wade.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bb/bbps.html


Now tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about.

added on the 2009-11-10 15:25:49 by Wade Wade
not everyone wants to be a bodybuilder...
added on the 2009-11-10 15:32:56 by havoc havoc
Rowley: I understand that and wouldn't want to push it on anyone, but I resent being accused of talking bullshit on a subject I'm very experienced with.
added on the 2009-11-10 15:43:14 by Wade Wade
So, let's imagine that hormones can give pretty impressive results and that there are people who have evidence to back that up.. Wouldn't it make perfect sense to use them?
added on the 2009-11-10 15:53:51 by 216 216
What if some things work slightly different on each of us? I have read a lot of suggestions on what is healthy to eat or how to keep fit and a lot of disagreements on that. And what all say is, I tried it and it worked very well on me so it must be true. I am not saying that there is no common ground here. Some basic stuff are common for most (like not eating much carbohydrates, exercising) but there might be variations on what works best on each. I say these because I have heard a lot of suggestions and disagreements in the past and I couldn't decide what is best for me.
added on the 2009-11-10 16:05:06 by Optimus Optimus

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