Revision 2026 - The Power Within - April 3rd to 6th 2026
category: general [glöplog]
Maybe preselection is something to consider if there are "too many". Then the ones not shown can be saved for parties following Revision. Probably plenty of smaller parties that would appreciate more demo entries.
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Maybe preselection is something to consider if there are "too many". Then the ones not shown can be saved for parties following Revision. Probably plenty of smaller parties that would appreciate more demo entries.
Honestly, if someone paid for a ticket (maybe even flew in from another country) just to to participate in the compo, it’d really suck to have their entry disqualified simply because the organizers thought it wasn’t good enough. Not exactly great motivation for beginners.
Would it suck? Yes (I‘ve been there). But after all, it’s a competition. Submitting your prod doesn’t automatically grant you the right to be shown on the big screen.
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But after all, it’s a competition.
Exactly, it’s a competition. Preselection isn’t really a competition.
Actually, no real problem here, as gaspode already said. There were more than 20 demos only in 2023.
If only...
1. No party invitations in demo compos please. We'll see your slide enough time already.
2. Move everything Amiga to Saturday.
3. Start Sunday concert AFTER all compo blocks.
4. Respect your audience. Generally nobody gives a flying f*k about your 2-day-partyplace-coded compo filler.
5. Re-run last 10-15 pc demos on Monday morning.
6. Start early with compo blocks. Plan demo compo for 5pm, we'll get it 10pm with usual delays.
7. Shuffle demos differently - potential compo winner could be shown first, tenth or last - you never know so watch the whole show.
Food for thought :)
1. No party invitations in demo compos please. We'll see your slide enough time already.
2. Move everything Amiga to Saturday.
3. Start Sunday concert AFTER all compo blocks.
4. Respect your audience. Generally nobody gives a flying f*k about your 2-day-partyplace-coded compo filler.
5. Re-run last 10-15 pc demos on Monday morning.
6. Start early with compo blocks. Plan demo compo for 5pm, we'll get it 10pm with usual delays.
7. Shuffle demos differently - potential compo winner could be shown first, tenth or last - you never know so watch the whole show.
Food for thought :)
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Exactly, it’s a competition. Preselection isn’t really a competition.
Why is preselection so impossible in a democompo, when it happens in music competitions all the time?
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Actually, no real problem here, as gaspode already said. There were more than 20 demos only in 2023.
As a sofascener, I've just given up on the Revision main compo block the last couple of years because it's so long (and yes, 20 PC demos plus a double-digit number of Amiga demos plus whatever else is in that compo block goes as “long” for me). I go to bed when I go to bed, it's not worth it to sit through 15 demos to get to the five that actually entertain me. Whether that is a “real problem” or not is up for someone else to decide; it's not like I am giving Revision significant amounts of money or something.
I think it's an important experience to see your work on the bigscreen and get live reactions, especially for newcomers. So I would consider this more important than the wish to see only the top stuff in the compo.
However, I would support to find a way to make the last compos start earlier somehow. But AFAIK this was discussed earlier and because Revision is packed with compos there’s not much, there isn't much room for maneuver.
However, I would support to find a way to make the last compos start earlier somehow. But AFAIK this was discussed earlier and because Revision is packed with compos there’s not much, there isn't much room for maneuver.
And because there’s still no option to edit posts:
»But AFAIK this was discussed earlier and because Revision is packed with compos […] there isn't much room for maneuver.
»But AFAIK this was discussed earlier and because Revision is packed with compos […] there isn't much room for maneuver.
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especially for newcomers
As someone who thought they need to show their first prod at revision at some point as well: nah you don't, you'll bind a disproportionate amount of orga ressources and there's a literal 0% chance you win.
smaller parties are a much better place to release firsties :) you wouldn't start your boxing carreer with a championship title fight either, rite?
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… and there's a literal 0% chance you win.
Compos are not always about winning. It's also about showing your stuff to a LOT of people on a BIG screen with a FAT sound-system! :)
True, but lower quality prods are completely drowned out in the slew of other prods, nobody will remember it once the block is over, not trying to discourage anyone, but be aware that for the most part the audiences mental capacity is primarily spent on the top contenders.
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I think it's an important experience to see your work on the bigscreen and get live reactions, especially for newcomers. So I would consider this more important than the wish to see only the top stuff in the compo.
I totally agree, it's a unique experience to see your release on the big screen and get audience reaction, especially for the first time. Remote contenders won't be able to experience this.
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However, I would support to find a way to make the last compos start earlier somehow. But AFAIK this was discussed earlier and because Revision is packed with compos there’s not much, there isn't much room for maneuver.
There would be room to manoeuvre if there were some demos less in all compos, eg because there would be no remote entries ;)
I'll stop repeating myself, I guess I made my point more than clear and it's decided already anyways. We will discuss the same for Deadline this year, as it's getting more and more packed for us as well. (Scene ain't dead, huh?)
But more importantly: Looking forward to Revision and to meeting all the family again! <3
That's also helped by the fact that the entries tend to be shown in order of increasing quality. The last demo to be shown is probably easier to remember when you immediately go to vote than the one that was shown 20 entries ago. Live voting is a great way to reduce this effect though.
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I totally agree, it's a unique experience to see your release on the big screen and get audience reaction, especially for the first time. Remote contenders won't be able to experience this.
My last posts no longer related to the »remote entries«-topic. Only to preselection. But you’re right that emote entries tighten the situation. But I still hope that remote-entries are possible. ;o)
I remember after last Revision people talking about moving the game compo to Friday to free up more time on Sunday and give more time for voters to play the games, I see no reason why not to do that.
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True, but lower quality prods are completely drowned out in the slew of other prods, nobody will remember it once the block is over, not trying to discourage anyone, but be aware that for the most part the audiences mental capacity is primarily spent on the top contenders.
Or ONLY the top 3.
Release your stuff out of compos until you get good enough to compete.
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Release your stuff out of compos until you get good enough to compete.
Or don't release stuff at all. [rolleyes-emoticon]
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Quote:Release your stuff out of compos until you get good enough to compete.
Or don't release stuff at all. [rolleyes-emoticon]
Worked for me.
i've done prods that didn't do well in the rankings, i knew what i was getting into when i released a demo at Revision in 2022, but it was good to see it shown and people still enjoyed watching it. having a range of different ability levels adds to the experience for me. for someone completely new to the scene to release out of compo seems like a good way to be seen by basically no-one. i think it's mostly only people who already have a reputation that can get any attention by doing that.
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for someone completely new to the scene to release out of compo seems like a good way to be seen by basically no-one.
and for someone not new, its an great way to try more adventurous or artistic stuff without being put under the exact same scrutiny as if it was released in a compo.
Then again, people will sometimes put them under the exact same scrutiny anyway................[rolls eyes emoji]
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for someone completely new to the scene to release out of compo seems like a good way to be seen by basically no-one.
The real alternative isn't releasing out-of-compo, it's releasing on one of the other 80-ish parties during the course of the year (most of which are desperate for more entries).
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Quote:for someone completely new to the scene to release out of compo seems like a good way to be seen by basically no-one.
The real alternative isn't releasing out-of-compo, it's releasing on one of the other 80-ish parties during the course of the year (most of which are desperate for more entries).
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Or just don't listen to pretentious up-their-a.. self-proclaimed demoscene leaders. Problem solved!
