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• general:
• level: user
• personal:
• first name: Aske Simon
• last name: Christensen
• cdcs:
• cdc #1: Nexus-7 by Andromeda [web]
• cdc #2: Tint by The Black Lotus [web]
• cdc #3: Gift by Potion
• cdc #4: STS-02: Electric Kool-Aid by Synesthetics
• cdc #5: TBC Realtime Experience by Too Bloody Cheesy [web]

• 4k Commodore 64 Who Cares by Pers' Wastaiset Produktiot [web]
• Hilarious!
• rulezadded on the 2012-09-27 17:01:23
• 4k Windows Quietschi Bunti by Nuance [web]
• Quote:

  Really? I challenge you to name the other 9 pc 4ks. ;D

  
  Who said anything about PC? ;)
  
  Anyway, I could of course not let such a challenge go unanswered, and I could only think of four or so off-hand, so I went on a journey to find them (helped along by a little Pouet scraping script). It was great fun.
  
  Here is your list of nine previous 4k intros featuring speech synthesis:
  
  Cyboman 5 by TPOLM
  xSqueeker by Szuwarek & Factor 6
  Code Is My Pron by Nuance
  Lautschrift by Radwar Enterprises
  (core) by wamma & PwP
  Planet Loonies by Loonies
  Who Cares by PwP
  fr-040 by farbrausch
  Void 3 by kolor
  
  Not included in the list is a handful of "cheaters" using the Windows Speech API. :)
• isokadded on the 2012-09-25 20:53:57
• 1k Windows what the frac by Alter!Krass!
• What cupe said.
• rulezadded on the 2012-09-19 12:10:12
• 4k Amiga AGA Blurya by Phibrizzo
• Quote:

  Which implies that all diskbased.libraries are required for the system to work. And that is definitely not true.

  
  Depends on what you mean by "the system". If you mean the software on the system disks, then all the libraries are needed. Anything less is an artificial split.
  
  The fact that most of this stuff is not very useful for demos (that is, if you are running SetPatch + OxyPatcher) is not really an argument for anything. Most demos don't use intuition.library, layers.library or expansion.library for anything either.
  
  
  Quote:

  Well, "not many" is quite far fetched as at least Setpatch can be easily avoided when it comes to hardware banging intros.

  
  Sure, if you can do without data cache and transcendental FPU instructions. :)
  
  Try running a bunch of mainstream demos on 060 without SetPatch and tell me how many work as well as with SetPatch (if at all). Fact is: most demos rely on it.
  
  
  Quote:

  Besides, an intro doesn't open 68060 library on its own and uses its functions, contrary to a certain math library which started this whole discussion.

  
  True, but does it make a difference? A dependency is a dependency.
  
  
  Quote:

  If the demo REQUIRES Oxypatcher (I have yet to see one which does) then it is cheating.

  
  I have seen many that do. And even more that need it to do their precalc in a reasonable amount of time.
  
  
  Quote:

  Also, following your logic, many people drive too fast, does it mean it's OK to do it then?

  
  My logic is that because many countries allow you to drive fast, then it is OK to do it. Of course that logic is not flawless either (people get killed even when the traffic laws are obeyed), but it illustrates my point:
  
  What is cheating and what is not is defined by tradition (i.e. typical compo rules), not by some technical distinction.
• isokadded on the 2012-09-19 11:42:59
• 4k Amiga AGA Blurya by Phibrizzo
• Quote:

  Libraries that are loaded from disk are a completely different thing (Why are they loaded from disk? Because they are not considered important enough to "waste" space in the ROM)

  
  Wrong. Libraries are placed on disk because they are not needed during the boot-up process (up until the boot volume is mounted). That does not make them any less important for the system as a whole.
  
  Is it also cheating to require SetPatch + 68060.library? Not many Amiga demos (4k or otherwise) work without them.
  
  How about OxyPatcher? It's as non-standard as can be (made by demosceners), but most Amiga compos run it, and many demos rely on it (or something equivalent).
  
  As for the intro: Nothing impressive here, but the design is not bad. By all means continue to experiment. Welcome to the Amiga scene.
• isokadded on the 2012-09-19 09:35:05
• 4k Windows Wave AtraKKtor by DMA [web]
• Great intro! And even though the music is fairly primitive, I found it working quite well for the style.
• rulezadded on the 2012-09-19 09:05:41
• 4k Windows Quietschi Bunti by Nuance [web]
• Golden rule of speech synth #1: Write the text on the screen at the same time. This will fool anyone into hearing the synth say exactly what is written.
  Golden rule of speech synth #2: Have the voice be connected to the intro somehow. Just a little bit.
  
  Manwe: No, this is something like the 10th 4k intro with vocals.
  
• sucksadded on the 2012-09-07 08:51:29
• wild Animation/Video Raum / Zeit by Subdream
• So beautiful and atmospheric!
• rulezadded on the 2012-08-22 09:45:33
• demo Windows Väre by Brainstorm [web]
• Bliss
• rulezadded on the 2012-08-16 23:03:03
• 4k Windows Hartverdrahtet by Akronyme Analogiker
• Amazing!
• rulezadded on the 2012-08-16 15:34:17