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PAiN #56 (12/04) by Pain Staff [web]
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release date : december 2004
release party : the Ultimate Meeting 2004
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Released live at TUM*04. Links on the PAiN website or links to scene.org might not work (yet). Have fun! People at TUM seem to like the mag :-)
added on the 2004-12-28 16:27:38 by unlock unlock
Nice One!
And it's cool to see Stravaganza's Arise in main demo chart :D
rulez added on the 2004-12-28 16:37:39 by JosSs JosSs
very very very good graphics in this mag ;)))
rulez added on the 2004-12-28 17:22:31 by Maali Maali
\o/ new pain
added on the 2004-12-28 17:28:53 by BoyC BoyC
just finished reading it (conveniently, i'm home sick :). another swell issue, i hope the momentum continues to the next issue. a breakpoint release would rock, and i dug the live party report. truck's and dominei's articles were great as well. and most of the others. :) a little more objective on the chart comments next time?
rulez added on the 2004-12-28 17:31:36 by phoenix phoenix
unlock: WHY release a mag without any decent articles?
sucks added on the 2004-12-28 19:02:31 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
then why don't you submit one instead of complaining and whining? (the only thing you seem to have a gift for, as usual...)

Dipswitch: I hate you for that powerpuff thing! I'll kick your filthy german ass, someday :)
rulez added on the 2004-12-28 19:24:15 by keops keops
some hints:
- big blocks of white text aren't pleasant to read.
- use small paragraphs.
- use different colours to emphasize words here and there. (although this might go against your "yikes, we're dark!" scheme :)
- use consistent formatting in the interviews by different editors.

haven't really checked out the content yet, so i'll spare the thumb for later.
added on the 2004-12-28 19:26:44 by reed reed
first time i think its realistic charts =D and good contest... yeee!!!111
rulez added on the 2004-12-28 19:48:04 by uns3en_ uns3en_
Respect! Very nice, glad to see PAiN back in action!
rulez added on the 2004-12-28 19:49:43 by radman1 radman1
Good issue!
rulez added on the 2004-12-28 19:53:53 by magic magic
quality
added on the 2004-12-28 20:54:12 by zeebr zeebr
Good quality scene mag, but I found this issue really boring I'm sorry to say.
Very nice. I liked this one :)
Dominei; you know i love you, but i found some flaws in your article. dont EVER NEVER mention that you are a coder. I use that when im tired of someone (female), and it works.....if it dont work in the beginning, just go to the details, and then you can read in her eyes: "He`s not worth it". ;)
rulez added on the 2004-12-28 23:20:13 by quisten quisten
"Demos Are" by Gargaj was a good article.
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 00:02:48 by Adok Adok
Oh yeah, Dominei - thanks for the dating tips. From now on I'll wait until at least the 3rd date before suggesting the Tiger Game!
good one this.
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 01:42:00 by got got
reed: yeh i know what you mean. we lacked time to proofread/enhance things properly in some articles.. we'll possibly maybe release a final version later on.. we'll see what the staff says when they come back from tum.
added on the 2004-12-29 03:56:23 by psenough psenough
cool enough
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 05:15:29 by pdx pdx
nice :)
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 06:27:46 by Buckethead Buckethead
Nice issue !
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 06:46:58 by rock rock
gots some really interesting interviews
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 09:31:11 by xeNusion xeNusion
ACE!
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 09:43:52 by irvin irvin
STOP VOTING ON ME PEOPLE.
damn.
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 12:47:56 by Gargaj Gargaj
Some interesting articles his time.
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 12:54:42 by tomaes tomaes
THIS QUALITY-STUFF HITS PAINFUL IN OUR ASSES..
great as usual ;D
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 12:56:01 by v3nom v3nom
great mag as always.
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 14:21:50 by teel teel
good interviews with interesting people
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 16:17:19 by hollowman hollowman
fantastic mag, superb, interesting as always, fresh, good job, people! keep on with that! :)
It is a shame i didn't get to reading pain issues sooner, because i thought of it as some marginal diskmag in the past.

Now I see I was completely wrong, there is a whole lot of articles on actual themes. The writing style of all authors is very readable and fresh. You can feel the life breathing inside this mag.
rulez added on the 2004-12-29 23:34:23 by flash^peon flash^peon
Pain!
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 00:12:03 by shash shash
I love it!
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 01:43:22 by Mr Twist Laser Mr Twist Laser
Quisten: Stay away from girls with artificial tan and platinum blonde har.

Shane: Try the second :D
@ Megadelux Yes, issue 0304 was far better imho, but I only see you here slamming out your shit against nearly everything that comes out! Does that make you happy?
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 04:23:13 by ghandy ghandy
ghandy, no most of the people who has commented here has been a part in creating it or has close mates who was. personally i dont think the people who are behind this mag really cares if anyone says this is good/bad, they obviously must know that the mag sucks from a readers view as they probably even read it (mostly) thro themselves.
added on the 2004-12-30 09:56:18 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
megadelux: It's difficult to make a magazine that focuses on such a narrow range of topics as the demoscene still worth reading after so many years in which demoscene magazines were released and in which more or less all aspects of the demoscene have already been discussed in articles. At least this issue of Pain contains one interesting article ("Demos Are").
added on the 2004-12-30 10:38:08 by Adok Adok
swapping is still alive! email me your home address and i'll send you a floppy with pageturner on it! \o/
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 10:59:58 by skrebbel skrebbel
A great issue again. Not all articles interested me, but there was enough very good stuff in it, and nothing disturbed me. But an extra double applause ("clap calp") for dipswitch's articles. Liked them alot. I had preferred if the "EP" article had appeared in next Hugi, but I suppose I cannot have everything, hmm?
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 11:04:14 by chock chock
Next Hugi will feature an article sized 100 kbytes written by EP, which is about the discussion on his article "How To Save The Demo Scene". About a third of it is related to dipswitch's comments.
added on the 2004-12-30 11:12:41 by Adok Adok
Nice interviews, especially Blaizer and Hitchhikr. Truck's diary was a fun read as well. All in all a fine mag.
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 11:44:51 by break break
Good stuff
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 14:49:39 by ithaqua ithaqua
nice articles and interviews, as usual. too bad it crashed my machine 3 times during reading .. still, thumbs up for the content.
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 17:31:32 by dalezr dalezr
well... yeh.
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 17:52:51 by reed reed
This was the first mag since ages which could keep me entertained for some time. Especially nice interviews! Waiting for the next issue!
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 19:09:17 by sam sam
thank you for reviving my belief in diskmags!
rulez added on the 2004-12-30 19:13:26 by kusma kusma
Fucking Americans, what's the scene coming to. I swear. Profusely and with vigor.
ROTFL @ stefan & adok
added on the 2004-12-30 20:30:54 by psenough psenough
This R0X; i love the interview with Blaizer...
Also, the graphics by Delilah are great! Italy rules!
rulez added on the 2005-01-01 14:48:01 by orb orb
A lot of preety interesting articles and interviews there. Pain is flying these days!
rulez added on the 2005-01-03 12:59:47 by Optimus Optimus
The interface seems to buggy here... The down menu clicking area is bellow than the text displayed, but works at last :)))
rulez added on the 2005-01-03 16:53:54 by AbcuG! AbcuG!
heh, seems we forgot to move the active area when moving the text :) will be fixed with the next issue of course. thanks for notifying us (you seem to be the only one using a mouse).
added on the 2005-01-03 16:56:36 by unlock unlock
pain is cool \o/
rulez added on the 2005-01-03 17:16:05 by uncle-x uncle-x
Pain is The shit !
rulez added on the 2005-01-03 17:21:08 by kohai kohai
background/contrast/font issues makes it a real PAIN to read, which is after all the most important aspect of a diskmag, so no thumb up...
added on the 2005-01-03 17:57:58 by blala blala
the menu system still annoys the hell out of me..
added on the 2005-01-03 18:27:54 by darkus darkus
@ Megadelux: Well, of course I do care what the people think about my articles. Some others in the PAiN team gave that up and don't care anymore as all the time from some specific people only negative comments rushed in. I can understand that at some point you tend not to care about that anymore.

Not that some readers are hypercritical. No, it makes the impression to me that they just enjoy speaking & writing badly about a production.

If you have a fantastic idea for a trip that no reader has explored before. Don't hesitate, write it down and send it! And if there's no decent mag that would deserve it, open your own one instead!

@Darkus: You could install winuae and read JP#13 instead! ;-)))))))

The menu system is strange for the first hour you use it and then it's okay.
added on the 2005-01-04 09:03:12 by ghandy ghandy
Cool issue again. Extra nice tunes.
rulez added on the 2005-01-04 09:11:05 by dairos dairos
ghandy: make a PC version and I`ll support it.. ?? :P
added on the 2005-01-04 18:45:31 by darkus darkus
Nice one, as usual. Keep it up ppl!
rulez added on the 2005-01-04 19:32:41 by zoom zoom
THANXXXX, when is the next one coming out???
rulez added on the 2005-01-05 05:29:57 by randomi randomi
Wot no variety articles? :o]
added on the 2005-01-07 14:33:09 by OldSkoOL OldSkoOL
I had some great time reading this issue :-) and i can say that i liked almost every article (except that "tea dating" article...).

So, big thumbs up from me ;-)
rulez added on the 2005-01-09 18:27:45 by BadSector BadSector
very good introducing-music, makes me feel oldschool again. thumbs up for the whole magazine.
rulez added on the 2005-01-10 00:12:51 by oldaccount oldaccount
i also liked the mag, allthough i had to wait ages for it. i was very anxious if my music would do any good for the mag :) ..

and well, i haven't seen any real comment about the music yet :( ..

should i support PAiN with another tune? :)
rulez added on the 2005-01-10 04:36:45 by tEiS tEiS
yeah you should, your music rocks!
added on the 2005-01-10 09:16:37 by dipswitch dipswitch
was that a rhetorical question?
of COURSE you should :D
added on the 2005-01-10 09:20:15 by Gargaj Gargaj
articles rulez, interviews rulez, tunes rulez and Delilah's cute elf rulez even more :))

i still cant get used to the "gameplay" of the interface : it's not that funny to make my mouse always do the contrary of what i want her to do :/ that's the only good point of Hugi, Chris Dragan's fine diskmag engine, though shamelessly raped by dumb and dumber and dumberer texts by Adok and EP...
rulez added on the 2005-01-11 04:16:21 by Zest Zest
Well my articles will be even more numerous in Hugi 30 :

1/ a pouet post reply about hugi 29 STS article
2/ an article about dipswith
3/ others articles... Stay tuned

This time we will kick your ass ! :)

Zest we await your article for this issue.

PS :

1/ pain contain good articles IMHO except dip one's
2/ the display is hard to read for my eyes
added on the 2005-01-11 21:24:18 by ep ep
1/ non merci
2/ non merci
3/ non merci

non merci
added on the 2005-01-12 01:19:46 by Zest Zest
now you hate _all_ my articles just because i critizised you in one? what a pitiful loser you are then...
added on the 2005-01-12 12:02:18 by dipswitch dipswitch
hey dip, dont just stand there, BRING IT ON!! :D
or better... FUCKTRO TIME!! :D
added on the 2005-01-12 12:06:42 by Gargaj Gargaj
currently the best diskmag available.. <3
(and this time even with the obligatory "how nerds can date women" - article ;)
rulez added on the 2005-01-12 12:07:36 by toxie toxie
Quote:
FUCKTRO TIME!!


I hear Kewlers has it coming.
added on the 2005-01-12 12:14:15 by Shifter Shifter
1/ si monsieur Zest
2/ si monsieur Zest
3/ si monsieur Zest

Et si t'es pas content, c'est pareil :)

si monsieur Zest

Well Dip, there a difference between hating and not loving, you know.
A big shade.
This is a shaded spirit which is needed to read my articles.

Well being angry, not polite or whatever else than being clever show me and everybody out there that you are not : when you get so quickly angry that means you can't control yourself so we can induce you are violent so dangerous...

Happy new year.
rulez added on the 2005-01-12 23:25:20 by ep ep
EP, previously known as Edw of Darkness: I really wonder what you're doing at this point.

Do you want a war between some people working for Hugi and some others for PAiN?
Let the readers better decide what they prefer. If you have private problems with Dipswitch or one of his articles, write him a private email. There's no need (and it's less interesting for the rest) to make that in a public way, but that's only my humble opinion.

Give the readers something entertaining to read, some pleasing graphics & nice tune to listen to and it will be easy for you to convince them that your mag is the better one. Reply articles are okay but only interesting for less people. Happy new year!
added on the 2005-01-13 08:04:00 by ghandy ghandy
imho there's no logical meaning to compare hugi & pain ... those are 2 complementary mags that's it.long life to pain & long life to hugi so :)
pain 12/04 exit process is really cool btw.
rulez added on the 2005-01-13 08:14:35 by lonestar lonestar
ep makes me wanna smoke crack.
If you have private problems with Dipswitch or one of his articles, write him a private email. There's no need (and it's less interesting for the rest) to make that in a public way, but that's only my humble opinion.

It's possible to write interesting reply articles - as long as you quote properly and answer properly.
I personally would be eager to see it ;)
added on the 2005-01-13 08:56:44 by Gargaj Gargaj
okay, and now please move this discussion away from the _product comments_. mkay?
added on the 2005-01-13 10:23:56 by unlock unlock
rulez added on the 2005-01-13 10:45:52 by Preacher Preacher
Very nice one.
rulez added on the 2005-01-13 22:16:10 by freeze freeze
Pretty nice mag with a couple of articles worth reading again. It was better than last Hugi but still very mediocre.

ps: when Random told you about the films he liked, he enumerated 4 different things. We call Brazil - Brazilia (it's not that horrible as you might see). But still we are freaking weird people!

gargaj: me trying to tell people what demos are - "Well, that's... no, it's... but ... phh... or just... Ohh, go f*ck yourself!"
rulez added on the 2005-01-19 11:15:56 by kraviz kraviz
uber-cool, i'm gonna write up some articles for the next issue...
rulez added on the 2005-02-09 14:13:42 by madcrow madcrow
pain kicks ass.. more coding articles!!!
rulez added on the 2005-02-09 14:24:50 by trigger trigger
music kick ass!!! :)
there's lots of interasting articles and overal look&feel is just GREAT!
plz more technical stuff (tutorials). one for "pixel" painting in photoshop is very good...
rulez added on the 2005-04-12 19:54:59 by calimero calimero
the art is very nice, the music is very good too but there should be an option to select the screen resolution (doesn't look good on TFTs) and it could have been a bit better structured.
added on the 2005-04-12 20:04:46 by Lupin Lupin
lupin: better structured how if i may ask.. O_o
added on the 2005-04-12 20:06:22 by psenough psenough
ok i took a look at it again, the structure is good and i now understand the menu, i was just wondering why the screen is fading when i click in the text area :)

But i noticed that the font looks quite blury (i first thought this is because of my TFT but its the same in windowed mode). And maybe texture filtering could have been turned on in the ending scene...
added on the 2005-04-12 20:26:50 by Lupin Lupin
windowed mode causes the picture to be scaled up with bilinear if you resize the window so no wonder the text is blurry.
the outro is softrendered so texture filtering needs to be written i guess :)
added on the 2005-04-12 20:34:16 by Gargaj Gargaj
ok, then its worth a thumb up :)
rulez added on the 2005-04-12 20:53:55 by Lupin Lupin
This issue is a very good one.
A clear build-up and good content.
GFX, SFX: smooth to the core!!!
Thanks for this production.
rulez added on the 2005-07-11 22:57:00 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
rulez added on the 2006-04-29 23:26:42 by wie8 wie8
reed for funky president
added on the 2006-12-28 18:42:47 by tempest tempest

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