Bad Apple!! by Fenarinarsa [web]
screenshot added by fenarinarsa on 2017-12-10 12:40:46
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release date : december 2017
release party : Silly Venture 2017
compo : atari demo
ranked : 3rd
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popularity : 61%
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alltime top: #3997
added on the 2017-12-10 12:40:46 by fenarinarsa fenarinarsa

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Very nice rendition. Now we also need a proper ST version :)
rulez added on the 2017-12-10 13:29:27 by PG PG
Stop-stop, it's original Bad Apple sound on STe?
rulez added on the 2017-12-10 13:41:35 by 100bit 100bit
I will release the source code later, you can disable blitter but the generated file is ~40% bigger. As on STF there is only 3 bitplanes needed and a reaaaaally lowered quality audio, it should compensate.
Well done.
rulez added on the 2017-12-10 13:48:54 by Zavie Zavie
Gotta vote up the weeb trash

huge file though
rulez added on the 2017-12-10 13:54:19 by noby noby
well you made a videoplayer play a quite large video that could be crunched way down if only the cpu of the poor atari could handle it ;P

Anyway, the result looks and sounds just like the original video in my ears (well, almost), and that is a technical achievement I can respect.

Also Im a sucker for Bad Apple ;P
rulez added on the 2017-12-10 13:57:06 by wysiwtf wysiwtf
Very cool conversion, edges seem to be antialiased.
rulez added on the 2017-12-10 15:41:12 by Optimus Optimus
A-MAZING achievement.

What other videos can be played?

And PLEASE, is it possible to include the subtitles, to make it in a KARAOKE mode?
rulez added on the 2017-12-10 15:42:39 by sim sim
bad apple has been done so many times.

its like doom of demoscene
sucks added on the 2017-12-10 19:32:27 by Zlew Zlew
Pretty impressive!!
rulez added on the 2017-12-10 20:06:36 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
A very good version of the thing that got old ages ago.
added on the 2017-12-10 20:35:53 by Preacher Preacher
So is this the reason to thumb this amazing technical achievement down?
I am not too fond of BA, but I do know how much work dudes put in to it to make it best lookling on their platform. And this ALONE deserves respect.
added on the 2017-12-10 20:37:53 by sim sim
Not to be a dick, but a 50MB streaming animation, while nice, is not much of an achievement, and shouldn't have been shown in the standard ST-compo...
added on the 2017-12-10 20:59:52 by britelite britelite
Very nice version, smooth..
rulez added on the 2017-12-10 21:30:59 by Buckethead Buckethead
@Zlew I didn't say it in the demo but this year is the 10th anniversary of Bad Apple (the music) and next year will be the 10th anniversary of the original video. So yes, it's old. And it's a kind of benchmark. Some conversions are juste amazing. I was thinking of doing this conversion during maybe two years.

@britelite as I said elsewhere it started as a performance test and ended as an exercise to get back to 68k code. When I see your demos for instance I feel like a small old poop doing crappy code. Not to say I never did any 3D in my whole life.
That said I did it for fun and not for the competition, I wouldn't have cared of it not being shown in the ST compo since I originally planned a standalone release.
I don't really think it's a technical achievement, but maybe it's a dad achievement, it's actually quite hard to code when you have kids. Thumbs up to all parent coders.
The only thing I hope it may bring to the ST scene is to point out that you can have nice streaming audio. imho the soundtracks (pcm or ym) in recent ST demos are mostly boring :/

@sim karaoke was planned but I want to work on something else now. It needs some work but is totally doable, since the rendering takes around 30% of CPU/blitter time in average. You can play other videos but the code is optimized for this specific animation.
@fenarinarsa: don't get me wrong, I loved the demo, the conversion was awesome. but to be fair, I just thought it would have been better placed in the wild compo.
added on the 2017-12-10 23:22:19 by britelite britelite
Wonderful conversion! Thanks!
rulez added on the 2017-12-11 00:05:42 by Daniel Daniel
For me Bad Apple is not like doom but rather like the "Hello World" of the demo scene. You can tweak it to the specific of your beloved platform and learn from that how your ideas work. And you can set your own limits and conquer them. This one if a nicely done version. Didn't expect it to be 4 planes when it first started, but that really pays off in term of smoothness.
rulez added on the 2017-12-11 00:31:38 by JAC! JAC!
50mb is too much, so what Britelite said.
But thumb up for doing it, the quality is good!
rulez added on the 2017-12-11 08:54:32 by baah baah
Forgot my thumb :)
rulez added on the 2017-12-11 09:54:39 by britelite britelite
Thumbs up to all parent coders.
Thumbs up to all parent coders.
Thumbs up to all parent coders.
Thumbs up to all parent coders.
Thumbs up to all parent coders.
Thumbs up to all parent coders.
Thumbs up to all parent coders.
Thumbs up to all parent coders.

Enuff said.
rulez added on the 2017-12-11 16:42:25 by twh twh
I like it. On every platfrom. Somehow, dunno why :) Well done!
rulez added on the 2017-12-11 19:00:15 by sachy sachy
rulez added on the 2017-12-12 17:56:44 by falcon050 falcon050
The best "Bad Apple" version ever. So smooth, with great sound.

@fenarinarsa: thanks for contributing to SV2k17!
rulez added on the 2017-12-13 08:02:38 by grey grey
Thumb up because it's an Atari ST production :)
rulez added on the 2017-12-13 10:43:12 by Zorro 2 Zorro 2
more please :)
rulez added on the 2017-12-13 11:58:36 by spiny spiny
As a "Bad Apple!!" sizecoder I don't care about this being ~50 megs. No platform without "Bad Apple!!" :P
rulez added on the 2017-12-14 00:09:21 by stage7 stage7
Nice and smooth
added on the 2017-12-14 03:25:29 by cxw cxw
bad apple has already been done on atari st, but this version is good and i'm a weebo so shutup and take my thumb.
rulez added on the 2017-12-14 03:58:59 by psenough psenough
rulez added on the 2017-12-15 09:52:42 by remdy remdy
I'm watching the 'making of', it's very interesting, nice job -> thumb up !!
rulez added on the 2017-12-20 12:53:05 by HerrV HerrV
Heh. Port it to everything like Apple 2s, Atari 2600, etc. :P
added on the 2017-12-23 02:15:51 by AntDude AntDude
Well, fuck me running. Now I've watched the "making of" video, and color me surprised but I didn't expect that much technique in a b/w streamed video. Until now I was sure it was just streaming frames directly to the graphics memory, but there's actually some process to it.

Too bad can't undo the thumb down, but on your next prod i'll give you two!!
added on the 2017-12-28 15:27:10 by Zlew Zlew
Final version & source code available.

The final version is low-res and high-res compatible and the archive also contains smaller versions for slow HDDs.

Some bugs were also fixed and now it should be compatible with a lot more HDD drivers.
Really cool making of :)
what the
rulez added on the 2018-01-01 13:12:51 by FMS_Cat FMS_Cat
nice version for STE, like the hi-res version. Interesting making of video
rulez added on the 2018-01-04 23:53:59 by krupkaj krupkaj
nice one...

even if i'm not fan of streaming... also no big fan of apple ;)... and already seen alot that bad apple... but the conversion is good
rulez added on the 2018-01-05 20:10:46 by ultra ultra
This is one damn fine demo! Well done!
rulez added on the 2018-01-13 03:57:29 by LambdaCalculus LambdaCalculus
rulez added on the 2019-02-03 10:15:04 by spkr spkr
Bad Apple now also ported to Atari STe
rulez added on the 2019-12-06 15:28:03 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
really cool
rulez added on the 2020-06-24 12:25:34 by Blast! Blast!
bad apple has been done so many times.

its like doom of demoscene
sucks added on the 2020-10-11 10:09:36 by SiR SiR

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