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• first name: T.
• last name: H.
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• cdcs:
• cdc #1: PROTOZOA by Kewlers [web]
• cdc #2: V2 Synthesizer System by Farbrausch [web]
• cdc #3: Unclear Throat by Pluisje
• cdc #4: Edge of Disgrace by Booze Design
• cdc #5: Absolute Territory by Prismbeings

• 64k Windows JavaScript Domain by 0b5vr
• I must admit I'm growing a bit weary of the scene self referentiality, but the flawless execution on every single front makes it very deserving of praise nevertheless. :)
• rulezadded on the 2021-12-17 17:53:11
• 4k Windows The Last Minute by Lucid
• Continuing the legacy of World Ending 4Ks at Deadline, I see. While not as elaborate as the last one there (Waillee) I distinctly remember the feeling of "Whoa" when it started, quickly following by dread. Great attention to detali in everything, especially the colors and the trees.
• rulezadded on the 2021-10-22 17:32:10
• demo Windows JavaScript the proud flesh by mfx [web]
• "Visceral" describes it best, and the wait for a Ballet Dancer successor was definitely worth it. :)
  
  Also interesting how this has that certain "MFX in the 2000s" look (just modernized) albeit running on a completely different engine. There's just something unique about how uncle-x goes about visuals.
• rulezadded on the 2021-10-19 18:44:42
• demo Windows Inversion by Rebels
• What ps said basically. I think the issue that I have is not the early 2000s style per se but that I miss some "certain je ne sais quoi", some contextualization or stylistic elements that would elevate it above a mere rehash of effects, albeit with more GPU. Same with the soundtrack - it certainly shows Vincenzo's prowess, but it doesn't really go anywhere. Solid piggie this time.
• isokadded on the 2021-10-19 18:35:31
• demo Wild DX266 by recube [web]
• That was definitely a thing to behold. Whoa.
• rulezadded on the 2021-10-19 18:28:48
• demo Windows JavaScript Luna by slay bells
• They grow up so fast *sheds boomer tear*
  
  Perhaps a bit too introverted for the general party populace, visuals as well as music wise, and a bit hurried in places (most notably that repeating background texture, sorry everyone not able to unsee it now), but there's absolutely nothing wrong with a demo that "just" wants to present beauty to the viewer, and this little gem has hands down the best color work I've seen in the last years in the scene, I love the detail of the visuals, and that track is a total banger (if you're into the style). Definitely the highlight of Deadline for me.
• rulezadded on the 2021-10-19 18:26:24
• demo MS-Dos/gus cöncept by Ümlaüt Design [web]
• I don't think this demo is either mindless pandering aka the downfall of the demoscene as-is, or in the same vein as Piledriver. On the contrary. I love how intimately personal and authentic it is - a genuine expression of an author who always wanted to make this, even if it's 20 years late.
  
  It's not screaming "hey scene, look at me!", it just is what it is.
  
  And as a demo itself it easily keeps up with the Replays and Haujobbs of yore. The soundtrack, while not entirely up to eg. Radix' level of proficiency and detail, fits perfectly and sticks in your mind for days, and the visuals and direction not only evoke that end-90s feel but also, personally, are welcome in the current times for how gentle they are :)
• rulezadded on the 2021-09-17 17:31:19
• 256b MS-Dos tube by 3SC [web]
• Ahem.
• rulezadded on the 2021-08-04 11:05:31
• demo JavaScript eqvalhalla (Lyric Video) by slay bells
• Quote:

  However, let me assure you this isn't "made up" or "a game" to me. You're free to think I'm a raving lunatic who's wrong about exactly everything, but my intention is sincere. I'm not here to troll or post flamebait or derail something for shits and giggles, as the expression goes. Discussions like these take a lot of time and energy for me and I wouldn't spend it if I didn't think these things mattered.

  
  
  At least the last sentence is a thing that we can agree on. So I'm going to assume your intentions are sincere, spare us both the energy that goes into these long comments, and only highlight one specific statement of yours:
  
  
  Quote:

  There's a pattern of people swooping in to take turns in making the most malicious interpretations possible of something written or created with no ill intent

  
  
  Ok, first: Whataboutism. But that's not the point.
  
  The point is that this again, this time probably unintended, describes yourself. Because from your opening statement on ("narrative of marginalization") you made it very clear that _you_ were not going to assume the slightest bit of sincerity, and in fact went for making the most malicious interpretation possible of the text. There's not a single example you stated where you didn't deliberately and explicitly twist the meaning of the words, or even created a malicious interpretation of them out of thin air or, granted, out of "patterns" you think you've seen elsewhere (which sound an awful lot like stuff you haven't actually _seen_ but rather kept being told about btw).
  
  So, regardless of political stance, (and yes, this is a thing I'm also occasionally struggling with): How about next time you live up to your own standards.
  
  Sincerely,
• rulezadded on the 2021-08-02 10:43:09
• demo JavaScript eqvalhalla (Lyric Video) by slay bells
• Quote:

  I'll certainly try to clarify my standpoint and I hope you'll find the time to read and not necessarily agree but at least better understand where I'm coming from.

  
  
  So I've got good and bad news for you.
  The good news: Yes, I found the time to read what you've written and I can say that I've now got a pretty clear and unambiguous understanding where you are coming from.
  The bad news: This probably didn't at all work as you intended.
  
  So please forgive me if I won't reply to any of the parts that can only be described as years of uncritical ingestion of Joe Rogan podcasts, and stay focused on the demo itself, or rather its exegesis.
  
  Let's start with what's arguably the central point of this:
  
  
  Quote:

  Arguments are easy made while others are still bruising

  
  
  Your interpretation is: "We decide when and what to argue!". Can I please ask (rhetorically), how the heck you are arriving at this? Aren't you the person that just hours ago said, "the replies have so far focused either on something someone else has said, or something I've supposedly said but clearly haven't."? And suddenly you're the expert at discerning the Hidden Political Meaning Behind Everything - which, even if there hypothetically were a kernel of truth to it, literally falls into the "someone else said it" category?
  
  If we just take this sentence at face value, there's nothing imperative or nominative about this. Instead it's purely descriptive. And herein lies the crux of the matter, and why you're so hell bent on arguing against it: In its essence, it describes you.
  
  It pains me to have to explain the "still bruising" part but let's just remember that less than a week before this demo was released, the person who sexually assaulted one of the creators went public here on Pouet whining about how it was no big deal. So that one's pretty much obvious.
  
  On to "Arguments are easy made". Now take a long, hard look at yourself, and realize you're the person who not only tries to politicise a piece of art that is at its core deeply personal to its creators, but who has the sheer audacity to try to derail any discussion about it and move the goalposts to fucking Mars by replying to it with page after page of, pardon my French, tired, pseudo-intellectual, centrist drivel.
  
  And look how nobody made even the slightest attempt at keeping you from doing so. This is the second funniest thing about it: By posting here you pretty much invalidated your own point completely. But I mean, that's as expected as it is boring, because you already know that the whole "trying to control the conversation" spiel is completely made up. For you it's just a game.
  
  But the funniest part is still to come. See, full disclosure here - I helped a bit with the demo, and I've got pretty much the whole inside scoop on the lyrics, which experiences informed them and what the actual intent behind them is. And I must apologize - when I said that line was descriptive, that was kind of a lie. What the line actually was, was predictive.
  
  Yes, it anticipated the discussion that would ensue, and was specifically designed to call out the likes of you who would inevitably, compulsively try to detract from the actual topic and in the process completely expose themselves publicly.
  
  And you fell for it. Hook, line and sinker.
  
  But you know what, let's quickly go through your other attempts at interpretation...
  
  
  Quote:

  A safe space for our self worth is what you now owe to me

  
  
  Your interpretation: "A safe space in current discourse usually means something vastly more ideologically complex than freedom from harassment.". Yeah, uh, see above. You're just projecting again. The exact choice of words was admittedly slightly provocative, but you made the mistake of omitting the "for our self worth" part from your "analysis", and would you know even a small part of the countless stories women in the demoscene have about having their skills and contributions routinely dismissed, _regardless of their track record or "standing"_, the actual meaning of this line would've been clear as day. Instead, naah, you went for "something something politics" again. Well done.
  
  
  Quote:

  You don't get to call it drama when we're calling out the shit

  
  
  I mean, this is one of the most unambiguous lines in the whole text - it references a very specific pattern that occurs a lot especially here on Pouet: Someone calls out some shitty thing that happened, and suddenly people that have nothing to do with the whole thing swoop in from the side and complain about "drama" - as if the problem wasn't the shitty thing that happened, but people talking about it. Let's just say that this behaviour is... unnecessary at best, and while this line pretty much tells those people to shove their "valuable contributions" into their collective assholes, what you make of it - "We are the sole judges and jurors. Don't question us!" - is again just you trying to push your overbearing political agenda onto something that is clearly referencing a specific problem within the scene.
  
  And so on, and so on. Everything you said was reading something into the text that's clearly not there, and, uh, thanks for the insight into all the unrelated stuff that's going on in your mind I guess, but as far as I'm concerned, this is the discussion thread of a demoscene production, not a random dump of incoherent political leanings, so it'd be nice if you kept it at that. Thank you.
• isokadded on the 2021-08-01 20:37:41