Ocean Machine by The Black Lotus [web]
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release date : march 2005
release party : Breakpoint 2005
compo : amiga demo
ranked : 1st
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popularity : 81%
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alltime top: #41
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Gimme a video please :)
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 10:05:41 by magic magic
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 10:09:05 by bzz bzz
AMAZING ! Really great job again by TBL !!! ---- Nice GFX - Nice CODE -- Nice Music ! -- NICE ALL :) ------ La moutarde c'est fort ! ----- Love From Amigaland !
added on the 2005-03-28 10:10:46 by WoDK WoDK
missed to thumb up sorry :(
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 10:13:25 by WoDK WoDK
Really great, like the soundtrack by Yolk!!! Keep on rockin' !!!!
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 12:36:51 by wayne wayne
TBL ownz. Ballet-dancer ninja girl makes you happy.
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 12:37:21 by jimmi jimmi
So a beautiful sound and nice gfx. I only can say excellent!
Btw. where can I grab the music file ;) ?
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 12:53:54 by Cj Cj
Sometimes this demo looks like made of scraps of previous TBL demos. Anyway, i like it. This voxel stuff is strange...
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 13:03:18 by kempy kempy
Meh. Just rehashed stuff and some of the scenes looked were so chunky I thought they were in textmode. Music was ok in part, but got repetetive and annoying.

Personally i think Loonies kicked your ass this year!
sucks added on the 2005-03-28 13:11:07 by Shanethewolf Shanethewolf
TBL did it again a Winning one ;o))
added on the 2005-03-28 13:30:01 by wayne wayne
Another classic :) Great work AGAIN by tbl.
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 13:53:56 by Proteque Proteque

This is nowhere close to Silkcut. The new voxelengine may be technically nice, but it looks very ugly. And is the demo even using all 256 colors? Many scenes look like they just use 16.

added on the 2005-03-28 14:06:23 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
"And is the demo even using all 256 colors? Many scenes look like they just use 16."

I was thinking the same thing. I'm very surprised this won.
Nice work guys! You beat us AGAIN! :)
.. now I have no choice but to kick your ass in football this summer!
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 14:41:36 by booster booster
Was really nice. Just the landscape with the clouds, that didn't do it for me. Great prod again.
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 18:30:02 by chock chock
This was equally or even more enjoyable than most of the PC demos presented at Breakpoint 2005!
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 22:12:39 by Adok Adok
just hyvä
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 22:20:29 by ricky martin ricky martin
The usual tbl quality.
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 22:32:21 by teel teel
Blocky & Slow Voxels + Graphic errors in the Cubes-part + Reusing Ideas = Thumbs down for Namevoting.

The Music was ok. But Loonies was far better this time. Sorry guys.
sucks added on the 2005-03-28 23:07:54 by Exin Exin
it was really cool... the blocky voxels looked awsome on the big screen ;)
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 23:12:02 by Lupin Lupin
Well yeah the voxel-parts were kind of crossing the thin line between 'impressive for technical reasons' versus 'this does not look good' but the rest of the show I liked. Next to that, killer soundtrack.
rulez added on the 2005-03-28 23:12:49 by superplek superplek

Video link until I've got a working server again
added on the 2005-03-28 23:20:19 by robotriot robotriot
Great atmosphere! The voxel-parts are very impressive! And the music is really fantastic! The graphics by louie are very good too. Looking for the final version. Congratulations, pals!
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 03:13:56 by ham ham
Loved the music, great atmosphere through out. Technically stunning and she dances now! that was excellent.
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 03:33:44 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
The demo does indeed show some signs of being rushed (for one thing, it is very crash prone on some machines) -- once I get back home I'll look into making a final version of it.
added on the 2005-03-29 04:26:05 by Kalms Kalms
Me and Nolver got it screener-style with camcorder on pricegiving ceremony, will try to get it online soon. BTW really good effects, in fact the 3d voxels looked great!!!
added on the 2005-03-29 07:28:04 by winden winden
TBL shows its true face. Clearly a TBL demo which is up to Rain's standard again.
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 08:44:50 by Corial Corial
TBL did it again, awesome stuff (otherwise the topics are getting boring). Thanx for seeing this high Amigastandards every year...
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 08:51:40 by vscd vscd
Great work with no doubt but the Loonies demo was better i.m.h.o. And of course this demo was 10 times more interesting than the most shown pc demos!!
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 09:54:41 by ghandy ghandy
I second Ghandy. Although a very great Demo with some sexy effects I kinda liked the loonies one a bit better. Great nonetheless.
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 09:58:53 by elend elend
The pacing makes up for the voxels imho. This looked very, very nice.
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 10:33:32 by Shifter Shifter
Superb scenes and amazing quality of music, graphics and code, but fails to be the best demo ever because of the general lack of design coherency.

Yolk, damn you, where's the female voice sample from... I haven't been sleeping two days now to find out where I've been hearing that one before!
added on the 2005-03-29 10:39:10 by dixan dixan
Very nice beginning, usual 3d code by TBL, at least the voxel scenes were something interesting (not always looking good though, perhaps some noise would hide the bad elements (Like in the Noxie intro)).
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 10:43:17 by Optimus Optimus
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 11:04:47 by Optima Optima
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 11:30:58 by Kojote Kojote
maybe it has some glitches but it simply rocked designwise.
really great stuff
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 12:54:30 by Hopper/SquoQuo Hopper/SquoQuo
The dancing is not motion captured. Repeat, the dancing is not motion captured. Holy shit.

Technically impressive voxels (the coder in me again says: Holy shit), but they do look a bit ugly.

IMHO, better than silkcut. I can't decide whether i liked this or loonies more, which is why I voted them both "rules" at the party ;-)

Are the credits supposed to end so abruptly?
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 14:10:33 by xeron xeron
great demo as usual, but i'm starting to get that swedish feeling of "för mycket av det goda"...
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 14:16:04 by lithis lithis
This was the highlight of the indoor party.
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 14:37:56 by thec thec
Oh this is... this is... ah hell, thumbs up! ;)
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 14:44:12 by nightbeat nightbeat
five me the music, please
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 14:44:45 by mrdoob mrdoob
Just goddamn awesome... respect!
rulezcdc added on the 2005-03-29 14:48:01 by dairos dairos
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 17:49:55 by v3nom v3nom
only seen it in an emu running very slowly, and it still ruled. I need that video :)
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 17:56:40 by psonice psonice
great stuff.... nice soundtrack..
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 18:41:51 by dwarf dwarf

nice one indeed. there's something to tbl and the imagery of women - and for some reason, they can incorporate that really good in their demos.
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 18:46:41 by dalezr dalezr
rock! and awesome to see yolk back!
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 18:51:28 by okkie okkie
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 18:54:28 by Lord Graga Lord Graga
If you want to see a really nice voxelengine, and probably the motivation for this demo, check out ken silvermans voxlab:


Ken silverman is the guy who coded the Duke Nukem 3D engine when he was 17.
added on the 2005-03-29 21:20:39 by Stelthzje Stelthzje
check out the completely wicked manually animated dancing queen. the voxel scenes are technically impressive but don't really appeal that much to me. a couple of them look great though.
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 22:25:29 by heetach heetach
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 22:38:14 by gg|rhg gg|rhg
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 22:44:59 by Gargaj Gargaj
we've been quite uplevelled when we watched this demo. when that dancing girl came, i was shouting "WAS!?!?! HALLO WAS!?"
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 23:00:45 by paniq paniq
tudor kicks ass with the animated dancer and kalms and rubblo kicks ass with some excellent full 3d voxels! Nice to see some effects again :)
rulez added on the 2005-03-29 23:29:00 by loaderror loaderror
fuckings for being better than mawi.
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 00:57:08 by nosfe nosfe

yolk i wanna bare your children!
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 02:56:38 by psenough psenough
Admittedly better than the Loonies demo. Super lovely with a BRILLIANT soundtrack.
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 03:02:15 by wad_ wad_
voxels, music, graphics. all very ace.
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 08:10:46 by Spin Spin
after a few crashes i got to see the whole demo. the voxel scenes dont look too good to me, but the rest of the demo looks neat, like a tbl's greatest hits show
added on the 2005-03-30 08:27:00 by hollowman hollowman
tbl takes amiga to another level
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 08:30:17 by Dalton Dalton
Completely great demo. Just a shame that TBL relies so heavily on 3D modelling. Without good 3D source material their demos would be a bit.. well, they wouldn't win. :) Or so it would seem anyway. That's probably why it was so nice to see the voxel scenes, even though they were really blocky and not entirely beautiful - finally a new effect. ;) But yeah, excellent dancing ninja. Boobs could have been bigger.
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 09:32:54 by doom doom
Silkcut was my favorite amiga demo until last weekend, now you got me again, great :D
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 09:37:04 by Kami68k Kami68k
actually, as i mentioned to the tbl guys after the compo, this demo is way too boring. i mean.. it suffers from the same problem as so many demos did in the change from old school to new school.. we KNOW you can do technical stuff, now add some more kickass design :)
and that's why the only scene in this that really did it for me was the one in the screenshot.
added on the 2005-03-30 09:42:07 by leijaa leijaa
Superdemo! The soundtrack is fantastic and the voxels are way cool, the best I've ever seen on 68k. If one should pinpoint something not perfect, it would be the transitions which sometimes are a bit rough. But gotta love this one !
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 11:05:07 by evil evil
now, just a question..

how come that the voxel engine has the same bugs as the polygon engine? just bad precision perhaps but still sounds a bit odd for a voxel engine (bugs are on big areas, voxel bugs shouldnt have that, right?).

and, why doesnt they animate the voxel? whats the point in making voxel if you dont fuck up the geometry? its not like its a nice rendering style (if you want abstract rendering have a look at the yodel demo - 32 shades blabla..)...

otherwise than this mysterious "voxel" engine, wich looks like crap and doesnt do anything fun (exept for some palettefading - or maybe thats just because the low bpp it looks like that.. uehrm)...

ok, ehrm, music was rather funny graphics where ok.

added on the 2005-03-30 11:16:26 by Hatikvah Hatikvah
There's just too much in it that does not work for me (the dancer, the voxels...) to give it a honest thumb up.
added on the 2005-03-30 12:02:51 by tomaes tomaes
Each years, TBL enhaces, in search of perfection. The only last year weakness were (in silkcut):
- 3D characters were too static.
- no experimental code (what TBL does best).

... so this year, we got an outstanding voxel technique, and a "skinned" character, implying the move of some phusic object.

T00 1337 !!
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 12:14:07 by krabob krabob
This is how PC demos should look like :) Soundtrack is far away from anything!
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 12:34:22 by Fzool Fzool
here goes
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 14:42:44 by Preacher Preacher
the best production on party!! great bonus stuff :)
I must start using that kind of managment application.
And the best of all - tudor, yolk - you're back!!
added on the 2005-03-30 15:20:56 by bonzaj bonzaj
wait... the dancer doesn't work for you? What? Ok I'm going to go over here and shake my head. Also, rulz0r.
great, amiga rulez ^^ . but why taking the credits picture from Macross Plus ^^
added on the 2005-03-30 16:12:31 by RaHoW RaHoW
very very nice - pc sceners; LEARN HOW TO DESIGN A DEMO!
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 16:20:46 by gloom gloom
gloom: sorry, but good (i'd say majestic) scene design doesn't always reflect in good general demo design.
Also, I can't see how the platform could affect the sense for artistic direction and graphic composition. Expecially since this has been coded on a emulator.
added on the 2005-03-30 16:25:14 by dixan dixan
over the top!
yes gloom, this is what we need.
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 16:42:26 by oldaccount oldaccount
quite nice but somehow left me cold. The music was nice, the voxel stuff was good, so were the cubes (i'm just a sucker for that kind of stuff) but the chick, for example, didn't do anything for me and the overall 'design' and direction was rather lame.

Maybe i'll need to watch it a few times more.
added on the 2005-03-30 17:02:15 by uncle-x uncle-x
Great one :). That voxel thingie was great, mixing colors in a fantastic way.
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 17:45:56 by reality3D reality3D
the black lotus always gives me hope for the amiga as a legendary demo platform moving forward, and this is no exception
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 17:59:55 by root root
the singer is my girlfriend's little sister Linda who I recorded ;) so it's not a "sample from somewhere"..

and you should all know that the grand piano is played by jugi/komplex! :D (also recorded by me).
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 20:51:50 by yolk yolk
ok the reply was meant to 'dixan' not 'shifter'.
added on the 2005-03-30 20:56:25 by yolk yolk
the voxels are great. overally, the demo has a nice atmosphere, though it is not extraordinaly coherent when it comes to graphics design. the music glues everything together, giving the world another solid tbl demo.
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 21:20:56 by flash^peon flash^peon
Clever use of voxels!
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 21:53:40 by Zplex Zplex
absolutely massive!
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 21:59:01 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
this demo was reason enough to visit breakpoint (beside the pokemon mini demo of course)
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 23:18:18 by peitchi peitchi
i forgot to vote
rulez added on the 2005-03-30 23:27:33 by bonzaj bonzaj
i forgot to vote. Yolk - please give us a link with the music! :)
added on the 2005-03-30 23:28:58 by bonzaj bonzaj
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 04:22:28 by p01 p01
very smooth stuff
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 04:52:58 by Phenomenon Phenomenon
This is da --------! oh you know :) !!!! ROX !
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 06:50:12 by wham wham
added on the 2005-03-31 11:17:14 by krabob krabob
Yolk: any chance that I have heard the tune before? I really had that sample in my head (and so did Florent, for instance). Koneisto perhaps?
added on the 2005-03-31 11:51:43 by dixan dixan
OK, whatta hell. Here goes:

256kbps 11MB
added on the 2005-03-31 11:52:02 by yolk yolk
Yes, Koneisto and TPOLM Lazy Sunday Radio #3 etc.. The track's from 2003 anyway :)
added on the 2005-03-31 11:55:54 by yolk yolk
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 12:22:23 by post malone post malone
A great production and it uses definitly more than 16 colors!
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 12:25:22 by RA RA
Cool greetings scene. Demo rulez of course..
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 12:30:40 by scg_ scg_
Thank you! With you releasing demos at BP it's worth the trip to Germany EVERY time.

It seems like you have done some refining on your code, though I only saw it on the big screen untill yet.

It seems that that 3d-scenes run faster (nice) - and it seems that you use a larger area on the screen for showing (that area was quite small at some places in Silkcut)

favourite stuff: the dancing girl (of course), the greetings part, that sadly ended to abruptly and the credits with "Ancient machine" :D.

Make my trip the next many years aswell - please :)
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 13:30:37 by Puryx Puryx
light, technical and cute.. dancer woman part is a revolution as for me..
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 13:54:55 by spritus spritus
great followup to silkcut.
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 14:52:56 by Mr Twist Laser Mr Twist Laser
great. but reuses some parts from last year
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 15:04:38 by blala blala
first off. yolk rules.

so does tbl - it's rare when you get the same feeling as a kid when you watched a great demo for the first time..

i can't understand how someone can even compare this to the loonies demo..

btw, some inspiration from incontruct.com? ;)

i love you.
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 19:47:21 by chavez chavez
Awesome work by TBL ... as usual. :)
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 20:23:51 by nufan nufan
inconstruct.com that is.
added on the 2005-03-31 20:35:45 by chavez chavez
A very nice demo from TBL as usual, awesome looking voxels. The music is great too, but those intentional sound bugs towards the end annoy the fuck out of me. I thought it was a bug in the compo but the mp3 has the exact same errors. it would have been better without them imo.
rulez added on the 2005-03-31 21:12:20 by a_lee_n a_lee_n
Magic, wonderful to see TBL doing some intressting code again, the voxels rule so much it hurts, so so beautiful. The scenes where also very nice, and hearing that the girl scene was actually not a motion capture in unbelivible. Great effort.
rulez added on the 2005-04-01 01:11:10 by bonkers bonkers
Nice piece of code.

The phrase: "Mustard is strong and that's why it's good" told in french sounds rather odd in the context.
rulez added on the 2005-04-01 04:29:18 by hitchhikr hitchhikr
I really liked the voxel engine and the dancing girl scene.
rulez added on the 2005-04-01 15:33:13 by drpain drpain
There is a "bug" at 6:14 in the mp3 :(
added on the 2005-04-01 20:32:05 by magic magic
In fact the dancing girl is made with a realtime bones engine.
added on the 2005-04-01 21:59:57 by winden winden
excellent demo.
rulez added on the 2005-04-02 14:18:44 by earx earx
Just rocks.
TBL's yearly reminder about the meaning of DEMOnstration ;)
rulez added on the 2005-04-02 14:56:37 by keops keops
Very good. Not as good as Silkcut, but it's stupid to keep heights so yeah, great.
rulez added on the 2005-04-02 22:05:59 by PinZa PinZa

Modelled on a realtime bones engine, perhaps ;). But her framerate doesn't really match that of the rest of the scene. That was pretty obvious in the compo. Still haven't found out if it was running on UAE or an Amiga then.
added on the 2005-04-02 22:23:33 by doom doom
Really impressive. Everything is enjoyable and its a fantastic track by Yolk.
rulez added on the 2005-04-02 22:35:48 by darkus darkus
just great
rulez added on the 2005-04-02 22:46:26 by cgfx cgfx
3D is over....voxel this... :D
guess a new "tree-compo" will start now...
again a masterpiece and ultrafitting tune.
rulez added on the 2005-04-02 23:17:25 by d0DgE d0DgE
I actually didn't like this. Why?
Well, the voxels didn't look so good at close range, the music wasn't to my taste, and the 3D scenes (except for the floating Dali-esque city, the dancer, cubes and greets) were kinda ugly.
All in all, I much prefer Silkcut and its bitchin' electrosound track.
sucks added on the 2005-04-03 02:07:12 by crusader crusader
Massive shit. It felt a bit like Silkcut v1.1 on the compo, but after a few watches I must say I now prefer this to its predecessor. Even if the landscape in Silkcut did look better. Yolk's wonderful soundtrack deserves an extra mention. My 2nd favourite Amiga entry, second only to Funktion. :)

Oh, and the feeling Chavez mentioned.. I got that too.
rulez added on the 2005-04-03 13:58:07 by break break
dr_doom: I recall kalms told me at bp05 that it was realtime
rulez added on the 2005-04-03 15:24:19 by winden winden
aber hallo!
demo rules... and nice to finally hear some good music from yolk again! double thumbs from me!
will there be a windows-port with a nice framerate? as far as i could see from the included project screenshot, whole thing was coded on a pc anyway, just replacing the video/sound output and it should work on pc?!
rulez added on the 2005-04-03 15:45:37 by bartman bartman
respect by the pound. this rocked.
rulez added on the 2005-04-03 15:47:02 by funktion funktion
wonderful stuff. really.
rulez added on the 2005-04-04 13:05:14 by prm prm
winden: it could be, but then it's just very odd that the dancer isn't rendered as often as the surroundings :)

Still the best part in the demo though, because of the quality of the animation.
added on the 2005-04-04 13:18:30 by doom doom
the black lotus quality :]

Silkcut is still undethroned though imho :)
rulez added on the 2005-04-04 15:22:56 by Zest Zest
dr_doom: probably this can't be clearly seen on the video (i got only 030 amiga thus only got video version). Anayways, these type of tricks are possible and indeed used sometimes... if mesh-with-bones is too costly to calculate (which may indeed be if each vertex has to be mixed from multiple matrixes), you can spread the calculation over 2 rendering frames. Have a look at some kangaroo intro/demo from around 1998, 1999 or 2000, there was a metaballs effect which did similar things.
added on the 2005-04-04 15:55:51 by winden winden
Not bad, but i still prefer silkcut (and tint) :)
added on the 2005-04-04 17:36:36 by Spewk Spewk
bartman: Are you insane!?!? That would be like saying "There's no point in doing demos on newschool amigas. No new demos do anything with the amigahardware, so they could just as well be simple sw-rendered demos for old PCs"....

and ofcourse, the voxels dont look that nice, but DAMN do I like'em anyway!
rulez added on the 2005-04-04 18:28:58 by Korvkiosken Korvkiosken
nice work again from tbl. after d0Dge describes me the coding problems when using voxels i understand why it hits the first place. but i think the most non-coders will not understand those 3D voxel worlds... and they do not look very pretty
rulez added on the 2005-04-04 18:52:15 by dirtie dirtie
The music rocks bigtime, and the voxel effect is ugly but cool.

Though: TBL have done demos like this for years now. Yeah, there are a few improvements like the skinned/y dancer with fake ribbon physics, but this cant hide the fact that apart from marginal improvements it was the same color scheme, the same landscapes, the same design and the same female low-poly model for years now. And honestly, I don't understand people applauding wildly for a 50-polygon object with a prerendered sky cube around it; everyone should perfectly know that the Amiga is capable of pulling that off.

Still a thumb up this time, but presumably the last one if things won't change in one way or the other.
rulez added on the 2005-04-04 19:05:36 by kb_ kb_
Great work, the music is really awesome! And the voxel scenes are cool. About the dancer, although ribbons are faked the result is very nice to look at.
rulez added on the 2005-04-04 23:46:07 by shine shine
Really nice, but I've to agree with kb in some points, as I expected something "new"
rulez added on the 2005-04-05 00:02:59 by shash shash
lovely prod, imresses from the first view. it's quite different from previous demos: there is no tbl zoom, the new voxel engine, fantastic animated model, etc., seems that tbl read the opinions about prevous prods ;)

yolk made excellent soundtrack, the tbl music style changed too: from industrial (as in p.circle, l.nell, silkcut) to ambient/new age.

only credits looks a bit empty, but they fit the music, and then OK.
rulez added on the 2005-04-05 06:52:31 by diver diver
all i have to say is - wonderful music! soundtracks with a mood like this are so rare these days. the rest is quite entertaining but not very coherent. great conclusion-scene.
rulez added on the 2005-04-05 09:58:41 by a-move a-move
totally agreeing with kb.. (and btw: more stupid was the applauding for the cubes-scene with the prerendered global illumination and fake(!!!) realtime-soft-shadows)
the voxel-renderer was nice although..
rulez added on the 2005-04-05 10:16:01 by toxie toxie
toxie, ever occured to you that sometimes people applaud because something just looks good, and don't give a shit about how hard is it to code? :)
added on the 2005-04-05 10:31:53 by chavez chavez
some really nice, atmospheric parts + a not so nice voxelpart (well, amiga has it's limits) + kickass music (haven't heard that good in a demo for long).

following the same cookbook as tbl uses for years, some might like it, some not. i do.
rulez added on the 2005-04-05 10:58:25 by teo teo
rulez added on the 2005-04-05 10:59:12 by cats cats
rulez added on the 2005-04-05 11:01:34 by Buckethead Buckethead
winden: definatly not bones (why would anyone want to do that in such a situation), but tweening ofcourse. And not that much of a problem to interpolate those 500-800 vertices.
added on the 2005-04-05 22:58:18 by Psycho Psycho
tbl back to the roots !
nice to see some new effect on amiga.
rulez added on the 2005-04-07 16:24:17 by bLa bLa
chavez: as speaking for myself: i don't think a couple of cubes (uni-colored) is very sexy.. nor was the animation or anything else in this scene.. :)
added on the 2005-04-08 12:22:10 by toxie toxie
toxie: well, i think that it is very pretty... i already had a similar picture printed and on my wall from inconstruct.com .. :) (which i printed a couple of years ago.. )
added on the 2005-04-08 16:21:53 by chavez chavez
The final version is out. Currently it's available at ftp://mirror.support.nl/pub/tbl/download/amiga/tbl-oceanmachinefinal.lha, but it should also show up at www.scene.org & the breakpoint FTP soon.

A video with the original 256kbit/s MP3 soundtrack and all fx running at 25fps is available at ftp://mirror.support.nl/pub/tbl/download/movies/TBL_-_Ocean_Machine_(non-realtime_DivX5_640x400).avi; given some luck (and a bribe if necessary), robotriot might make a realtime capture.

drdoom/psycho: looking into the code, it turned out that the dancing girl's interpolation code was broken and would stutter at some framerates; this should be fixed now though. Thanks for the heads up.

bartman: while most of the demosystem has been ported to build as a native Win32 application, some major parts are still missing. The sound decoding/mixing and the rasterizer backends contain a fair bit 680x0 assembly and there are no C versions of those piceces of code. Additionally, there is usually a bit of new assembly code for each part in the demo (usually some sort of image compositing or postprocessing filter). Making a working, native Win32 build out of the demo is thus not as easy as pressing a button yet. Making a video is easier and more cross-platform compatible, and our current opinion is that the visual result of a 640x400x25fps video is good enough.
added on the 2005-04-11 00:45:07 by Kalms Kalms
I've seen this dancer in too many demos already, but the soundtrack just rulez...
rulez added on the 2005-04-11 01:21:52 by franky-- franky--
Excellent demo once again... Great animation, great music, great style.
rulez added on the 2005-04-11 01:37:20 by Scali Scali
rulez added on the 2005-04-11 01:49:18 by Weyland Yutani Weyland Yutani
Note/Hint: I sortof hope that if this demo was Ocean Machine, the next will be Strapping Young Lad ;D
added on the 2005-04-11 01:52:20 by Gargaj Gargaj
Perfect Circle, Little Nell, Magia, Silkcut and Ocean Machine are all names of bands, mostly rock... Now I just wonder if that's intentional, or if rock bands happen to draw from the same sources when looking for names as TBL does. Time to inspect the record... erm mp3 collection of the TBL members :)
added on the 2005-04-11 03:46:12 by Scali Scali
"Ocean Machine" is the name of my track I did in September 2003. The title is my invention and I didn't (at least consciously ;) take it from a rock band. The TBL guys just nicked the name for their demo. :-P
added on the 2005-04-11 10:22:23 by yolk yolk
Kalms: nice. But you know, everyone has a realtime bones engine these days. ;) Look at Heartcore. I thought it was so trivial that mine is only shown for three seconds. So hah!

Anyway, remember that next year we want you to show off your 3D modeller's (impressive) skills a little less and put some more effort into original code. Maybe experiment with a different style, cause it's getting a bit hard to tell your demos apart.

Also, TBH, the faking in Ocean Machine was too obvious to be interesting. Like the pretextured box scene. It was pretty in itself (but then, softshadows on an entirely off-scene usually is), but when the other boxes moved under the arch you just added the shadows onto the prerendered ones on the floor texture. Really :). You could've played around with some shadetables or something to get proper blending. And the low (256x256?) resolution on the skybox in the first effect sort of ruined the feel of the scene, i think. It was much too clear what was part of the skybox and what wasn't.

I've decided that my favourite part is the voxel scenes, despite the fact that they're pretty ugly. It's the best part because it's the first time in years I've seen something really new from TBL.

So, consider that _constructive_ criticism. :) It's really a great demo.
added on the 2005-04-11 11:32:03 by doom doom
.. of course, "off-scene" in the above was supposed to read "off-white scene". So there.
added on the 2005-04-11 14:19:34 by doom doom
even though some of the voxelscenes looks like an accident, this demo really rocks bigtime. i love the voxel-code, and the first(?) voxel-part (the abstract, we cell-ish blob) :)
rulez added on the 2005-04-11 14:39:04 by kusma kusma
dixian: even though i see your point in your comment above, the sad fact still remains - most pc sceners can't design diddly squat. it seems it's a way of thinking, an "amiga mentality", that prevails, even though most amiga prods nowadays seem to be coded in winuae :)
added on the 2005-04-11 14:53:05 by gloom gloom
Read the Making of "Ocean Machine" in Jurassic Pack #14 !!
added on the 2005-04-11 18:18:59 by ghandy ghandy
Ghandy: on which website to be read? :D
added on the 2005-04-11 18:59:28 by magic magic
here it is:

final version realtime video

eD2k link: ed2k://|file|[amidemos.org]_tbl_-_ocean_machine_(final_version)_(amiga_aga_demo)_(2005)_(divx_320x240).avi|72162880|E7B9ADC76E3F89ED44CFDD861DF9E51D|h=J5O6HLVJIJEWRO3B5GQWXJ33W73RF2SH|/
added on the 2005-04-11 22:45:30 by robotriot robotriot
The voxels were cool, but the rest was just a big mish-mash of random scenes. Or so it appeared to me, anyway. :)

Cool code, though!
added on the 2005-04-11 23:45:12 by sagacity sagacity
great one. i mean, the amiga demo compo was much better than the pc one.

amigaaaaa amigaaaaaa amigaaaaaaaaa! :)
rulez added on the 2005-04-12 00:08:13 by jeenio jeenio
great ideas and design. rulez.
rulez added on the 2005-04-12 00:14:55 by Navis Navis
that tune is just that ubershit! also cool voxels and nice character animation. somehow to me this had some really nice 'metal gear solid'-ish touch..
rulez added on the 2005-04-12 01:49:00 by madMixx madMixx
Scali, check out the game Motorhead from Digital Illusions ;)
added on the 2005-04-12 03:38:26 by winden winden
good code, but quite boring.
rulez added on the 2005-04-12 14:57:38 by marlowe marlowe
Nice demo but I like SilkCut more. 8)

rulez added on the 2005-04-12 15:46:34 by djbase djbase
drdoom: Constructive criticism, my ass. It's the best diss anyone's given us in ages. :)

Next time you will get code.
added on the 2005-04-14 01:39:28 by Kalms Kalms
Hmm, simply great !
Music makes it even greater ... that's style, for good !
Did i mention the music is absolutely damn sexy cool ?
rulez added on the 2005-04-14 11:09:24 by kohai kohai
a killer demo!!
rulez added on the 2005-04-14 13:44:39 by NuKem NuKem
it's like "i know, this is going to rock" and then while the demo is running on is still surprised. respect!
rulez added on the 2005-04-15 22:30:43 by cp_ cp_
Its nice and well done, liked silk cut more though. Anyway great work.
rulez added on the 2005-04-16 14:25:16 by Zweckform Zweckform
Oh my fucking god.
rulez added on the 2005-04-16 14:43:33 by grip grip
Must comment again, the music is just awesome. Would love the music as a download to stick in my play list :)
added on the 2005-04-17 01:25:03 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
But i'm just stupid and missed the link listed above for the music ;p
added on the 2005-04-17 02:54:33 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
Wow! That's almost perfect ;) This is my new favourite.
rulez added on the 2005-04-19 07:58:07 by pezia pezia
Kalms: maybe I'll just put some complete 3d scenes in my own voxel engine (which is better than yours, mind you) and add perspective and integrate it with my realtime bones engine (which is better than yours, mind you). Then I'll put naked chicks on a skybox and make them dance, state-of-the-art style, to some SID music, while the whole thing spins around a C= logo. And you'll lose so hard you won't stop crying for weeks. ARRHAHAHAHAHAA!!
added on the 2005-04-19 12:58:00 by doom doom
Can I give a second thumb ?
added on the 2005-04-19 20:25:45 by p01 p01
@doom: I'm sorry if this sounds offensive but i'd really like to see some demos from you (I've been out of amy scene for 7 years...)
added on the 2005-04-19 22:33:41 by winden winden
added on the 2005-04-20 12:28:17 by xeron xeron
You have offended me greatly! Say your prayers and prepare to die!

Meanwhile, food!
added on the 2005-04-20 22:14:24 by doom doom
XD it has been about 9 years since my last coding-war XD
added on the 2005-04-20 22:25:23 by winden winden
after rewatching this demo and the previous kalms-rubber-tbl-demos i think i was wrong in saying that this is not one of their best demos. actually it IS one of their best demos, even if it has the same style since years (don't we all have our same style?). if the people like this style...who cares? they still shout loud when this kind of demos run. :)
anyway as hundret times said before: the voxel is ugly, but hell of good code, too, so it rulez. i loved the first voxel object most. looked better than the other voxel scenes. ah, and the beginning, when the girl opens her eyes...that was cool.
anyway it has some new code in it, nice and well done 3d scenes, demo-like scenes/objects which make no sense but look cool (much demos has that and we love that demos.. ;) and of course F#?*@G GOOD MUSIK!
and everyone who's talking shitty about this demo seems to have complex to be not able to do that kind of stuff by his own. you guys rule and you bastards know that pretty well.. ;)
rulez added on the 2005-04-20 22:39:37 by scicco scicco
Unbelievable stuff!

Innovative code, gfx, outstandimg music!
rulez added on the 2005-04-21 13:55:19 by すすれ すすれ
O _ O

Best I've seen in a long time. Music and graphics are astonishing. TBL to the power!
rulez added on the 2005-04-24 16:30:41 by sergeeo sergeeo
seems i have voted already.
awesome music.
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added on the 2005-04-24 18:04:03 by bartman bartman
btw, thanx for the 25fps video
added on the 2005-04-24 18:09:20 by bartman bartman
It's one of the best demo on amiga, you did a great job guys ! I like the cube scene, the last voxel scene, greetings part, all in all i like everything.
I hope to release a new demo for 2006 with all my unrealased stuff, really thank you for all great demo and motivation that you give me
rulez added on the 2005-04-24 20:43:10 by JamieSkarla JamieSkarla
The best TBL demo since Rain, closely followed by Silkcut. One thing though: this is still a collection of superb parts which don't really seem to glue together that well. I hope to see a TBL demo based around one design/theme/story whatever. Otherwise, fab music, fab visuals, fab code. The greetings scene is the best part.

@Jamie: would that be an Amiga release? Would be fantastic to see such a talented coder/team competing against the cream of the amiga scene again.
rulez added on the 2005-04-24 20:59:32 by z5 z5
The same recipe but i like it too. The greetings was especially cool.
rulez added on the 2005-04-26 19:06:43 by zoom zoom
rulez added on the 2005-04-30 09:33:59 by kelsey kelsey

this is strange, despite obvious similarities with their previous demos, Ocean Machine manages to surprise and impress once again // that said, this is really not my cup of tea, not the style i dig, neither i'm too excited about gfx and musik all in all [not speaking of the quality but taste here]

TBL's demos just clearly got a strong personality! -- respect!

rulez added on the 2005-05-02 11:29:51 by raver raver
Yeah baby! Not TBL's best demo ever, but still a pretty darn fine production. And I just love the tune!
rulez added on the 2005-05-08 01:58:34 by britelite britelite
I also liked the greetings part. But the voxels are really too ugly for my taste, except for the last scene. Still rulez of course :)
rulez added on the 2005-05-10 23:54:36 by beavis77 beavis77
I LBB ImageBB Imageve the song !!
I guess the voxels were rendered at the best manner that was possible on Amiga remaining real-time.

La moutard... c'est tres fort...
rulez added on the 2005-05-30 05:24:35 by bdk bdk
impressive as usual
rulez added on the 2005-05-30 10:18:14 by EviL EviL
Did i mention how much i absolutely love the tune? it's so damn good it hurts.
added on the 2005-05-30 10:56:25 by Intrinsic Intrinsic
Read my review of ocean machine at:


Also Silkcut and Magia reviews available :D
added on the 2005-05-31 07:29:49 by magic magic
rulez added on the 2005-06-11 02:50:15 by Quarryman Quarryman
Good demo, but has a minor flaws. Music is a bit repetitive at the middle of demo (best is the piano at the end)...Used voxels are really ancient and very ugly...

Silkcut and Magia was better, but still thumbing this up
rulez added on the 2005-06-15 18:08:21 by Trauma Zero Trauma Zero
One of my favourites ;o)
rulez added on the 2005-06-16 20:06:00 by KillJoy KillJoy
Dont know what I should say against this demo.. I have rarely found demos with such a great atmosphere. Kalms and co, come and make demos on Atari ;)
rulez added on the 2005-07-01 01:15:23 by fiveofive fiveofive
Interesting comments..
I really love the music, listening to it lately, downloading it again now..
added on the 2005-07-02 05:17:55 by Optimus Optimus
I've been wondering about one thing concerning the dancing character. It seems that the character is animated using rigid skinning, so that there is no interpolation across the joints, and cuts appear (like at the hips) when they are bent. As far as I've understood, the motion is animated using bones, and then put out as keyframed meshes with interpolation between them. Using this technique it would be possible to use better mesh skinning with decent interpolation. Is rigid skinning the only option available in lightwave or something?
added on the 2005-07-08 18:35:53 by heetach heetach
Totally awesome
rulez added on the 2005-07-10 18:00:23 by nitro2 nitro2
The girl singing sounds a lot like the girl singing Royksopps song Circuit Breaker, maybe this demo gave her a record contract =)
added on the 2005-07-21 14:40:57 by bonkers bonkers
Great great demo. Kalms is simply amazing.
rulez added on the 2005-07-25 09:42:20 by d3pth d3pth
Only Amiga makes it possible - and of course the great magicians at TBL!
rulez added on the 2005-08-28 00:43:17 by EarlGrey EarlGrey
Good job.
rulez added on the 2005-08-31 14:50:35 by ALiEN^bf ALiEN^bf
Great great stuff. The vocal-hook in the song rocks arse. Lovely.
added on the 2005-09-20 12:17:23 by PinZa PinZa
too lazy to check if i commented on this already, but it totally blew me away in the compo.
rulez added on the 2005-09-20 13:08:16 by reed reed
This is a great demo, really ...BUT... i think this demo deserve a real 3d hardware 'coz it's fat ass ugly in this loooow resolution :) (okay-okay, it's aga i know. :)
rulez added on the 2005-10-05 17:12:15 by AbcuG! AbcuG!
awesome - I like the transformers reference too (only in final version, not the video apparently...)
rulez added on the 2005-10-12 12:38:12 by Zuofu Zuofu
Almost magia ;)
rulez added on the 2005-10-13 15:36:12 by Thematic Thematic
love you!
rulez added on the 2005-10-23 22:18:24 by elfh elfh
rulez added on the 2005-10-29 16:54:56 by wie8 wie8
so nice and clean design. and i love the music.
rulez added on the 2005-11-21 14:59:33 by anesthetic anesthetic
Shanethewolf, Exin, Crusader are on the black(lotus)list :) C'mon guys this demo rocx!!!
rulez added on the 2005-11-21 18:03:55 by Skate Skate
Really nice.
rulez added on the 2005-12-21 21:41:08 by viznut/pwp viznut/pwp
well, yeah, it's good.. but they need to put a "contains 20% new content" at the start of each demo.
rulez added on the 2006-01-12 17:27:15 by phoenix phoenix
Unbelievable Great Production, Amiga and Black Lotus Rules! Love the Music :)
rulez added on the 2006-01-13 14:29:26 by Sapphire Sapphire
great production.
superb music and great some scene!
stylish design.
this is cool.
rulez added on the 2006-01-29 02:14:53 by got got
The video was recorded on an AMIGA 500 Fix it beautifull
added on the 2006-02-10 00:09:12 by WoDK WoDK
It really is magical.
rulez added on the 2006-02-14 22:36:56 by xernobyl xernobyl
WOW. This is one of the most beatiful demos i ever saw!
added on the 2006-02-21 23:14:22 by v3nom v3nom
rulez added on the 2006-03-30 02:21:18 by iks iks
Hate that music. Is nowaday only techno here, techno there?
added on the 2006-04-29 17:42:07 by Dranix Dranix
Nice job here
rulez added on the 2006-04-29 18:51:10 by _10b0 _10b0
this owns.. simply adore the smoothness of character animation.. good track.. good everything. wow.
rulez added on the 2006-05-21 04:44:14 by Gaia Gaia
this alone is proof that ninjas>pirates.. <3

a TBL fav for sure.
rulez added on the 2006-07-01 13:01:13 by mind mind
Oh My World!
Shockingly beautiful demo, and the music is just incredible. Thank you and congratulations!
rulez added on the 2006-07-21 04:57:00 by Aasemoon Aasemoon
This demo has grace. Yolk's awesome music is what sets the mood and the demo follows well. I like it most of the TBL demos I've seen recently and I suspect I'll be liking it for many years to come.

I struggled with what is the underlying "theme" here. Seems that this is more of a poetic demo. Nature, soft forms and abstract.

The voxels could use some precision but I still found myself admiring their beauty, the choral type structure and the perfect ending deserve mention.

I have an urge to mention almost every part of it but I'll refrain from doing so and will just close with saying that the dancer was one of the most beautiful scenes based on the real-world I've ever seen in a demo.

rulez added on the 2006-08-10 18:55:36 by slux slux
loved it!
rulez added on the 2006-08-17 09:26:43 by zeebr zeebr
rulez added on the 2006-08-29 00:38:59 by aga060 aga060
rulez added on the 2006-09-02 02:46:08 by keith303 keith303
Awesome I love the music
rulez added on the 2006-09-15 03:17:39 by texel texel
rulezcdc added on the 2006-09-15 19:56:19 by eye eye
software rendering
i've been too lazy to comment this before, but as i re-downloaded this demo
recently i felt: "damn... i'm so jealous!" ;] this stuff is making me all
warm inside, and this is the kinda thing that makes med consider spending
600eur on an accelerated amiga, and hell... add to the equation that i'm an

you get the picture, i love this prod. it outrulez the later starstruck demo
which kicked ass too. yolk, you're the man! thanx tbl, looking forward to new
well-designed and well-planned productions!
rulez added on the 2006-10-03 20:59:53 by Timbral Timbral
Best Soundtrack ever!
This demo is so great!
rulezcdc added on the 2006-10-05 22:05:42 by gentleman gentleman
awesome !
rulez added on the 2006-11-30 12:42:28 by Orion_ Orion_
well, it's awesome in winuae
it's fucking slow on real hardware (but it runs)
added on the 2006-11-30 12:49:22 by elkmoose elkmoose
rulez added on the 2007-03-07 17:46:24 by SilkCut SilkCut
Definitely one of the favourite Amiga demos – and I really love the soundtrack!
rulez added on the 2007-05-04 13:10:54 by Admiral^Elyssis Admiral^Elyssis
rulez added on the 2007-05-15 22:50:03 by Steel Steel
TBL keeps pulling out one classic after another \o/
rulez added on the 2007-05-17 00:40:52 by Nezbie Nezbie
I want another tumb, for the music...
added on the 2007-05-17 01:08:34 by bdk bdk
Ouch ! Music and graphics !!!
rulez added on the 2007-05-21 16:42:38 by toms toms
wonderful music and great gfx, as expected from tbl! this 3d is AWESOME...
rulez added on the 2007-06-07 21:38:48 by Saga Musix Saga Musix
impressive! another tbl quality prod
rulez added on the 2007-06-11 13:53:24 by cyberpingui cyberpingui
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rulezcdc added on the 2007-07-02 14:37:51 by Momo Vampire Momo Vampire
rulez added on the 2007-07-13 11:48:23 by Weretiger Weretiger
I like this even more than Starstruck - and that is one massive demo, too! Brilliant soundtrack!
rulez added on the 2007-08-07 02:11:54 by Stebo Stebo
looking back at this demo, and my previous comment which found its way into starstruck :), ocean machine really does stand out on its own compared to many other tbl releases. yolk's music helps, along with the voxel scenes. i think those voxel parts would be deemed ugly on a pc, but i admire them here, as both a feat of code on the amiga and a middle finger to the pc world of polygons.
added on the 2007-08-10 22:50:36 by phoenix phoenix
Awesome demo (i already thumb upped this months ago), but i was listening to Art Of Chill 3, a great compilation from Platipus.

Well, the Ocean Machine soundtrack is very similarto the 1st track of this Cd, Shulman - First Came The Stars (Bluetech Remix) .

Listen to this track, and tell me what you think ! :)
added on the 2007-08-15 10:23:51 by orb orb
Very NICE WORK !!!!

Best of One Demo on Amiga!

TBL is the King!

Thanx TBL !!
waiting the new release...
rulez added on the 2007-09-03 16:17:08 by thomas^sd thomas^sd
Loved every second of it.
rulez added on the 2007-09-15 19:24:08 by Maissi Maissi
nice animation, music, and voxel scenes

love it
rulez added on the 2007-11-20 23:25:19 by Alain Alain
rulez added on the 2007-11-23 11:29:23 by Archmage Archmage
greatest Stuff i Saw on Amiga around 2005 when i got know to the Scene
rulez added on the 2008-01-07 08:24:42 by maverique maverique
Seriously awesome! Way better than starstruck IMO
rulez added on the 2008-01-27 00:12:58 by The_Grandmother The_Grandmother
rulez added on the 2008-01-27 00:23:59 by Premium Premium
Huh? I didn't vote for this yet?

Lovely lovely prod, right up there with Silkcut.
rulez added on the 2008-01-27 01:01:14 by _V_ _V_
Indeed lovely...
rulez added on the 2008-02-07 12:49:20 by samurai samurai
rulez added on the 2008-02-23 18:13:39 by Anat Anat
Oh, I never commented on this??

The best modern-time TBL demo, for sure.
rulez added on the 2008-03-09 09:27:44 by Blueberry Blueberry
rulez added on the 2008-04-15 14:12:31 by greent greent
Next Effects and music <3
rulez added on the 2008-05-11 01:12:14 by Queen_Luna Queen_Luna
Great indeed
rulez added on the 2008-05-19 10:29:12 by Drunken_Poet Drunken_Poet
absolutely awesome.
rulez added on the 2008-07-09 23:24:57 by SiR SiR
rulez added on the 2008-07-20 02:41:40 by micksam7 micksam7
the music is simple awesome. really a mood-setter
rulez added on the 2008-08-15 19:35:26 by marshallh marshallh
this demo looks great and the music is amazing.
rulez added on the 2008-08-31 10:03:28 by gd gd
Beautiful... Just watched this on the Demo or Die DVD.
rulezcdc added on the 2008-09-07 20:56:16 by pigpenpete pigpenpete
I didn't like all the voxel scenes (have to agree with the people who found it too blocky and ugly), but hey, it's AGA, and there's enough kickass stuff to make up for it :). Especially Yolk's excellent soundtrack!
rulez added on the 2008-09-07 21:21:25 by Alpha C Alpha C
Thanks for the Atari Falcon port MiKRO and Kalms!!

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Atari Falcon binary
MPEG-4 AVC from the Falcon

added on the 2008-09-23 22:26:30 by evil evil
Big stupid grin won't go off.....

Thanks again Mikro, and TBL for making it in the first place.
rulez added on the 2008-09-23 23:07:39 by CiH CiH
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added on the 2008-09-24 00:40:25 by gentleman gentleman
falcon port :)
rulez added on the 2008-09-24 16:57:23 by gwEm gwEm
great soundtrack, I also really like the girl with ribbons scene.
rulez added on the 2008-09-24 18:00:02 by MsK` MsK`
I fucked up the video last night, the audio was not correct (event though I spent hours trying to get it right). I thought it was fine and uploaded it. But found out today it wasn't. Damn phase inversions in the vocals more or less erased it entierly. :)

The video is replaced with a new one now, sorry about that..
added on the 2008-09-24 18:35:33 by evil evil
one of my favorite demo which I always dreamed to see on falcon. just a bit disapointed for the 50Hz only, I won't be able to see it on my vga :(
added on the 2008-09-24 21:13:21 by Orion_ Orion_
Great demo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aaaaamiiiiiiiiiigaaaaaaaa :)
rulez added on the 2008-09-24 21:20:48 by wiseman wiseman
Great demo, great music :)
(and I like the fact the shadow in the cube part has been fixed so it's all smooth - at least in the falcon version)
rulez added on the 2008-09-24 22:12:56 by Dbug Dbug
Extra thumb for the falcon port.
added on the 2008-09-25 01:00:57 by xernobyl xernobyl
excellent 3D animations of dancing girl
rulez added on the 2008-09-25 03:41:18 by BITS BITS
Great demo! Not really much else to say :)
rulez added on the 2008-09-25 11:54:43 by ChrisTOS ChrisTOS
oh, kewl !!
added on the 2008-09-25 20:13:22 by ghandy ghandy
music is sublime, dancer and artwork very stylish..so no complaints :)
rulez added on the 2008-09-25 20:18:17 by bfx bfx
isn't the falcon-version (at least the video) totally out of sync?
added on the 2008-10-10 14:10:13 by dodke dodke
rulez added on the 2008-10-10 14:12:50 by gr9yfox gr9yfox
Keyboard on head to prove it's not a video!
rulez added on the 2008-10-10 14:33:13 by nystep nystep
dodke: first version was, second shouldn't be
added on the 2008-10-11 05:34:18 by havoc havoc
great conversion dudes, now what will be the next amiga conversion? :)
rulez added on the 2008-10-16 23:49:44 by D_F D_F
Extremly amazing!
rulez added on the 2008-10-27 08:42:38 by san_im san_im
rulez added on the 2008-12-22 12:42:04 by zefyros zefyros
One of my favourite Amiga demos. I'm not an Atari person, but it's cool that they can now share in this prod's goodness.

Hopefully you guy's will get Starstruck...one day ;)
rulez added on the 2008-12-22 23:52:07 by button button
rulez added on the 2009-01-04 10:57:15 by rmeht rmeht
Very nice demo and cute music.
rulez added on the 2009-01-04 11:46:20 by [self-ban] [self-ban]
beautiful. An inspiration even.
rulez added on the 2009-03-11 13:45:06 by auld auld
rulez added on the 2009-04-05 12:24:35 by vestige vestige
Well coded!
rulez added on the 2009-04-22 19:05:16 by MuffinHop MuffinHop
still has those a-ha effects even today.

don t like so much how the music theme is going down fast though (just my taste probably).

nevertheless sheer class.
added on the 2009-05-01 12:50:56 by cyb256 cyb256
great in every aspect.
<3 the soundtrack.
rulez added on the 2009-07-10 04:50:32 by wullon wullon
Masterful, voxels look great and soundtrack is deep.
rulez added on the 2009-11-22 21:07:42 by Claw Claw
rulez added on the 2010-01-09 15:57:58 by jack-3d jack-3d
rulez added on the 2010-01-11 22:16:09 by F7sus4 F7sus4
rulez added on the 2010-02-15 21:28:45 by ref ref
...maybe a comeback at BP2010?
rulez added on the 2010-02-15 21:39:02 by pintcat pintcat
Great demo !
Great voxels !!
rulez added on the 2010-02-16 21:22:20 by lsl lsl
tbl ftw.
rulez added on the 2010-03-18 08:04:10 by Raven^NCE Raven^NCE
BB Image <3
added on the 2010-03-23 05:47:58 by gentleman gentleman
Great soundtrack
rulez added on the 2010-05-11 14:33:07 by infant infant
very very nice - pc sceners; LEARN HOW TO DESIGN A DEMO!

Apparently, we should just learn directly from Nike-promo directors (Joseph Kosinski, who is also directing Tron: Legacy these days) and skip the middle-man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjwS_0WV-1Q

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added on the 2010-06-10 10:22:53 by gloom gloom
sucks added on the 2010-06-10 11:12:04 by xeNusion xeNusion
especially as the face didnt even fit properly into the demo.
added on the 2010-06-10 11:13:14 by xeNusion xeNusion
HUUUUUGE disappointment .. still a thumb up worthy demo, but at least just steal the idea and remake into your style instead of just plain stealing of entire material ...
added on the 2010-06-10 12:40:22 by dwarf dwarf
everybody does it
rulez added on the 2010-06-10 13:25:51 by relias abardon relias abardon
for xeNusion being a pathetic fucking trollface and for not thumbing it up before.. thanks for bringing it to my attention.
rulez added on the 2010-06-10 13:34:14 by dv$ dv$
Hehe, complaining that TBL "borrows ideas" from others is like complaining about water being wet or Coldplay making shit music :D
added on the 2010-06-10 13:40:56 by okkie okkie
Pretty old discussion and I think there are hundreds of demos who borrowed stuff aswell.
added on the 2010-06-10 13:56:15 by ltk_tscc ltk_tscc
its not just about "borrowing ideas" ...

its the lame act of stealing the frames of a video
and not even wasting a second on using a own or free photo...
thats shows just a serious lack of respect
for the work of other artists
added on the 2010-06-10 14:22:14 by xeNusion xeNusion
the original Nike frames contain a female with two eyes, a nose and a mouth, set against a non-de script background. there was not much "design" there to begin with. for a zero budget independent demo, it's kind of practical to just "rip" those frames rather than hire a model and studio to take your "own" generic photographs?

i think i'm right and xeNusion is wrong.
added on the 2010-06-10 16:44:16 by button button
Haven't thumbed this yet? What's wrong with me? This is one of the most memorable demos I have ever seen. One of my absolute favourites of all time. The music stands on its own. I don't care one bit of the entire plagiarism discussion, this demo is religion to me.
rulez added on the 2010-06-10 17:12:19 by elfan elfan
Storm in teacup, since the earliest days demos have ripped stuff. Artwork in particular. Besides, the last scene with the rotating tree and the piano is one of the most beautiful things I've seen in a demo.
rulez added on the 2010-06-10 17:20:32 by 4mat 4mat
It's okay to rip if you're TBL, no worries!
added on the 2010-06-10 17:29:06 by sagacity sagacity
the last scene with the rotating tree and the piano is one of the most beautiful things I've seen in a demo
added on the 2010-06-10 17:38:04 by SiR SiR
making demos without copied gfx sucks, so this rules!
added on the 2010-06-10 17:46:33 by nosfe nosfe
this prod rules, and just for the record: coldplay makes shitty music! (but not nearly as shitty as kane, tho \o/)
rulez added on the 2010-06-10 18:51:43 by havoc havoc
and coldplay even rips kraftwerk and still manages to suck!
not the best one from TBL but Jugi's piano is a nice touch on Yolks tune :)
added on the 2010-06-10 19:18:21 by leGend leGend
Even if it contains ripped gfx this still is a great piece of demoart!

and coldplay even rips kraftwerk and still manages to suck!

It´s not ripped... They did it the official way!
rulez added on the 2010-06-10 20:32:49 by pOWL pOWL
rulez added on the 2010-06-10 20:50:15 by Gʀɪʍʍy Gʀɪʍʍy

coldplay sind u2 fuer arme
keane sind coldplay fuer arme
added on the 2010-06-10 21:23:10 by SiR SiR
Kane, not Keane.

Although they both suck.
added on the 2010-06-10 21:29:41 by infant infant
rulez added on the 2010-06-12 09:52:34 by PENETRATOR PENETRATOR
this prod rules, and just for the record: coldplay makes shitty music! (but not nearly as shitty as kane, tho \o/)
rulez added on the 2010-06-12 11:34:42 by bitl bitl
Awesome at moments, elegant at others.
I just wish I didn't understand the lyrics. ;)
rulez added on the 2010-07-25 21:53:39 by Zavie Zavie
rulez added on the 2010-07-26 23:50:28 by Ized Ized
I just love it. SO MUCH! <3
rulez added on the 2010-09-10 11:44:41 by nekomono nekomono
what nosfe said!
rulez added on the 2010-09-10 11:51:38 by martin martin
rulez added on the 2010-10-22 11:59:17 by Mystra Mystra
rulez added on the 2010-10-22 12:27:52 by kyv kyv
It really roxxx! My favourite Amiga demo!
rulez added on the 2010-11-20 15:28:05 by Sir_Lucas Sir_Lucas
La moutarde
C'est fort
Et c'est pour çà
Que c'est bon
rulez added on the 2010-11-20 15:38:03 by stage7 stage7
stage7: if that's really what she's singing, it rules even more :)
rulez added on the 2010-11-20 15:50:37 by farfar farfar
yes, it's the most sexy hymn to mustard I've ever heared :D ... something only french can provide
added on the 2010-11-20 16:00:03 by d0DgE d0DgE
Thumb Machine
rulez added on the 2011-01-09 22:45:44 by BackSpace BackSpace
seems I missed to thumb this one
Great !
rulez added on the 2011-07-04 16:00:12 by anni anni
La moutarde c'est fort!

Like TBL :D
rulez added on the 2011-07-15 15:05:48 by rez rez
Excellent soundtrack, and heavy voxels for slow 060
rulez added on the 2011-07-30 16:16:20 by Frequent Frequent
Such an enjoyable demo... i love the wonderfully made soundtrack. And once again extra-extra kudos for bringing this to falcon.
rulez added on the 2011-08-01 20:31:03 by nty_ nty_
Such a professional soundtrack... Every bit of this dreamy demo is instantly lovable!
rulez added on the 2011-09-05 22:27:37 by moozooh moozooh
rulez added on the 2011-09-24 07:40:34 by provod provod

Great demo but ridiculous lyrics
rulez added on the 2011-09-28 13:33:03 by krusty krusty
A bit slow paced, but the voxels and ribbon are interesting...
rulez added on the 2011-09-28 21:35:40 by baah baah
Excellent soundtrack, i love it...
rulez added on the 2011-12-10 23:08:03 by pilot69 pilot69
i was looking for that soundtrack for a while now.. after hearing it again (funny at it may be) some tears.. etc.. loving this demo!
rulez added on the 2012-01-07 19:08:27 by mad mad
is it realy about mustard?
added on the 2012-01-07 19:16:17 by mad mad
As good as only TBL could do! Looks impressive even on emulator.
rulez added on the 2012-03-06 15:20:40 by zbyndek zbyndek
sure thing. thumb goes where? up!
rulez added on the 2012-03-06 15:36:08 by las las
rulez added on the 2012-03-13 20:44:07 by ferris ferris
While the visuals are great as usual, huge thumbs up for the music. Design-wise this is ace too, love the greetings part.
rulez added on the 2012-05-15 17:03:09 by noby noby
I like the gravity-defying ribbons, and the great voxel scenes. Nice greets part with the floating hexagons too. The music in the movie Avatar sounds like it was stolen from the endpart of this demo...
rulez added on the 2012-06-03 18:57:09 by fizzer fizzer
Is there a high quality video of this available somewhere? robotriot's links are dead.
added on the 2012-10-13 14:45:24 by Zavie Zavie
the definition of moody
rulez added on the 2013-01-05 17:15:02 by cmr cmr
rulez added on the 2013-04-08 15:04:59 by abductee abductee
rulez added on the 2013-04-08 15:26:24 by cupe cupe
rulez added on the 2013-05-18 23:42:53 by aech aech
One of the best from TBL
rulez added on the 2013-05-19 11:15:24 by SandLover SandLover
rulez added on the 2013-07-24 19:16:35 by ɧ4ɾɗվ. ɧ4ɾɗվ.
Great demo!
rulez added on the 2013-11-28 22:23:26 by mccnex mccnex
Great demo!
rulez added on the 2013-11-29 11:40:55 by Flops Flops
Cool! :)
rulez added on the 2013-11-29 11:46:53 by kjb kjb
TBL Quality!
rulez added on the 2013-11-29 14:36:14 by at0m at0m
Strong forgotten thumb!
rulez added on the 2013-11-29 15:12:36 by slayer slayer
very nice
rulez added on the 2014-01-04 01:08:06 by T$ T$
some great effects, nice at all !
rulez added on the 2014-04-26 18:17:27 by Black Dragon Black Dragon
yolk vote. great music!
rulez added on the 2014-05-23 18:01:23 by kimi kardashian kimi kardashian
Amazing on the Atari Falcon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rulez added on the 2014-05-23 20:18:03 by applecrypt applecrypt
Ugly Voxels, but superb music and atmosphere.
rulez added on the 2014-06-20 15:35:40 by Kylearan Kylearan
Thumbs up! No doubt!
rulez added on the 2014-07-23 20:21:44 by Daniel Daniel
You just have to love T BL
rulez added on the 2014-09-25 00:59:04 by The_Grandmother The_Grandmother
the music, the music, the music!!! (and the visuals too!!!)
rulez added on the 2015-04-12 13:27:19 by Virgill Virgill
how come i didn't aaaaaaaa-aaaaaaah-aaaaaaa this before :)
rulez added on the 2015-07-03 02:36:06 by harism harism
Nice in every aspect.
rulez added on the 2015-08-12 09:26:55 by lvd lvd
rulez added on the 2016-01-17 19:21:47 by sensenstahl sensenstahl
Some really stylish parts here.
rulez added on the 2016-03-10 00:14:09 by lennart lennart
rulez added on the 2016-04-26 17:24:36 by cxw cxw
rulez added on the 2016-04-26 21:31:45 by yzi yzi
rulez added on the 2016-11-30 11:38:40 by xTr1m xTr1m
added on the 2016-11-30 12:15:05 by noby noby
one of the best! great music, great design, superb graphics!
rulez added on the 2017-04-23 23:10:12 by Cego Cego
love that music
rulez added on the 2018-05-17 15:01:34 by Flashira Flashira
I love listening to that sound and the "la moutarde c'est bon" "la moutarde c'est fort" samples 🙃
with this soundtrack it could be a blank screen throughout the entire demo i'd still upvote it.
rulez added on the 2018-11-12 17:27:29 by nagz nagz
Still one of my fav soundtracks and designs of all time. So much amazing detail in this. Ahhhhhh!! <3
rulez added on the 2018-11-19 13:29:43 by cTrix cTrix
Wonderful music and atmosphere.
rulez added on the 2019-09-29 16:01:28 by _nemo_ _nemo_
I hate that voice. Gosh...
sucks added on the 2020-03-23 08:43:22 by vitalkanev vitalkanev
Senf ist stark, und deshalb ist es gut!
rulez added on the 2020-04-30 17:09:08 by Colas Colas
Love the music.
rulez added on the 2020-04-30 17:59:06 by gaspode gaspode
nice one
rulez added on the 2021-01-26 11:05:05 by Blast! Blast!
waves straight from paradise and angelic voice...
This beat!!!!! Yolk, omg. And the whole flow and visuals are just gorgeous. Doesn't overstay its welcome, a blast.
rulez added on the 2022-05-04 19:15:45 by wrighter wrighter
rulez added on the 2022-07-26 16:01:38 by Jamie Jamie
Music by Yolk is excellent and previously I didn't like the visuals so much, but nowadays I love this demo too=)
rulez added on the 2022-08-12 12:07:17 by mayday mayday
rulez added on the 2022-09-22 15:43:03 by spkr spkr
Amazing demo in such a calm setting, love it.
rulez added on the 2023-01-19 00:03:40 by nightshft_ nightshft_
What settings do I need to run this in WinUAE? Went through a few but all result in software failure so far.
added on the 2023-06-13 00:45:58 by tari3x tari3x
@tari3x: infofile says "AGA Amiga (1200 or 4000), with 68060 including FPU, and 32MB fastmem." you're probably missing the FPU or the memory i would guess.
added on the 2023-06-13 06:37:34 by psenough psenough
@psenough: sorry, took me a while to get back to this. Couple of questions:

1. This sounds like a very useful lead, but where do you see that infofile? The txt file in the download says "Real Amiga with 68060, 32+MB fastmem and AGA".

2. What setting does fastmem correspond to? I tried a couple but am getting error 20.
added on the 2023-07-02 02:19:05 by tari3x tari3x
To answer my first question - there's [nfo] in the corner.

Still can't run it though - went through many combinations. Would love to use it for a demoshow - if anyone has any thoughts, would be much appreciated!
added on the 2023-07-22 01:44:51 by tari3x tari3x
Another demo where I failed to say how brilliant this one is!

One of my favourites. The Yolk soundtrack is an all time classic.
rulez added on the 2023-09-16 22:12:18 by rc55 rc55
french is so poetic.

the french: mustard is strong and this is why it's good.
For me... the best demo from TBL.
rulez added on the 2023-11-27 13:44:22 by tjahzi(aka Jimi) tjahzi(aka Jimi)
La moutarde, c'est faure, et c'est pour ça, que c'est beau

probably not what it was supposed to mean but got it
rulez added on the 2024-03-03 12:43:05 by roudoudou roudoudou
Superb achievemen
rulez added on the 2024-04-03 22:09:48 by Barjack Barjack

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